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Article: https://proton.me/blog/deepseek

Calls it "Deepsneak", failing to make it clear that the reason people love Deepseek is that you can download and it run it securely on any of your own private devices or servers - unlike most of the competing SOTA AIs.

I can't speak for Proton, but the last couple weeks are showing some very clear biases coming out.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You could write this exact article about openai too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

The article goes into great detail about how it's different from OpenAI so, no.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The thing is, some people like proton. Or liked, if this keeps going. When you build a business on trust and you start flailing like a headless chicken, people gets wary.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A blog post telling people to be wary of a Chinese app running an LLM people know very little about is flailing?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Can't it be run standalone without network?

They also published the weights so we know more about it than some of the others

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This focuses mostly on the app though, which is #1 on the app stores atm

We know it's censored to comply with Chinese authorities, just not how much. It's probably trained on some fairly heavy propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

You don't think ChatGPT reflects western propaganda?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

As someone living in the west I prefer propaganda that isn't trying to bring down the place where I live.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Personally, I think the West is doing fine job tearing itself apart right now

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

Probably, but that's not the new thing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Sure it might but the thing is it may still acknowledge that there are different opinions on some topics. Does reflect how whilst governments may have a narrative, people can say what they think. In China, that's a different story...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When the CEO praises Trump, says China bad because China while hiding that occidental AIs have the same kind of censorship, that’s hypocrisy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

hiding that occidental AIs have the same kind of censorship

This is the second sentence in the article:

AI chat apps like ChatGPT collect user data, filter responses, and make content moderation decisions that are not always transparent.

The entire rest of the article is about how they actually do not have the same kind of censorship. You should try reading the article before commenting on it.

But DeepSeek...does all that and more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

He did not praise trump though

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

DeepSeek is opensource (unlike ClosedAI)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I eee this everywhere. They published the weights. That doesn't make it open source

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Ok correction noted, It still makes DeepSeek look better