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How is the most prominent Communist Party (or closest thing to a Communist Party) doing in your country?
(lemmygrad.ml)
No need to name your country or the party or any personal information that would give away your location.
PSL and WWP are much better than either CPUSA or the Democrat shills at DSA.
I am asking just purely of curiosity, what makes PSL and WWP better than the CPUSA? Not taking either side here, just curious your reasoning.
The main thing for me is that they do not cling to the delusion that helping democrats in their electoral politics is going to achieve anything. Any party that wastes its time campaigning for democrats or democrat-affiliated politicians is not a serious communist party. That being said, i am aware that there are many good comrades in the CPUSA, but the overall strategy of the party at the national level seems to me at this time to be erroneous.
I disagree, and I think there is a lot of assumptions about what the CPUSA does.
We are not allowed to endorse Democrats and even had a brief schism about the whole thing which resulted in the ouster of Sam Webb back in 2014 (which, I mean, good riddance).
We have tried to run our own candidates in recent years, particularly at the local level. Plans are drawn up to run other candidates and, of course, Joe Sims is pushing people to do so. But it's honestly hard, especially with the fact that, true enough, we didn't run candidates for a long time and many are too old or too young, from what I can tell.
Outside from that? We participate a lot in labor unions (such as the particularly famous Amazon union in New York) and it's arguably our main strength and we do indeed do mutual aid.
I mean, more to the piont: there's a lot that the CPUSA does that doesn't involve anything having to do with elections. We're a political party (which means we are obliged to run candidates or at least have an opinion on the matter, even encouraging members to vote) but, of course, we're an activist organization as well, like much of the communist parties on SolidNet (admittedly, that's sort-of a watered down version of the Comintern of old, but it's good for sharing ideas, international connections, etc.).
I do believe that @[email protected] has the right of it, even if he may say things I may not say about the organization myself.
CPUSA did simp pretty hard for Biden during 2020 though. They, just like every liberal outlet, painted him as some savior of democracy against fascism. When in truth, Biden is just a quieter fascism. Hell, their subreddit was one of the most libshit places I'd ever been. Ended up getting banned after getting into an argument with a mod about if voting is revolutionary (they claimed it was!).
CPUSA didn't simp for Biden in 2020 lol
It really did, at least their paper did. Every article was "We must stop the rise of fascism and Biden will do just that!". On r/cpusa they post like every article that party pushes and it was pure Biden simping. Most pro union president and shit. My view of the party comes from its publications (as its still not really impactful in terms of actions, at least not in my area as its so tiny) and it was pure liberal nonsense. "Voting is a revolutionary act!" Sounding stuff (yes, an article said that).
I remember the CPUSA and People's World articles; they didn't say that.
Maybe you just didn't read the ones I did. Regardless, they definitely did.
They did not.
Look, I'm not just gonna go back and forth with contradicting each other. I know what I read, you know what you read, it is what it is.
Sure...
https://lemmygrad.ml/post/413496
Bruh.
This contradicts what you've been saying.
No, it really doesn't. It's all the same "go out and vote our way to socialism" BS. That shit ain't on the ballot. Never is, never was, never will be.
Electoralist nonsense.
That's not what they said though. And we're a political party who is running their own candidates. We're supposed to have a stance on the issues.
There’s also PCUSA and other more irrelevant, but based parties
No, I disagree with this as well; I find their constant attacks against my org to be annoying and, often, me and my comrades are essentially ignoring them while they focus on lobbing insults are way. I've often tried not to get involved in online arguments with them (well, except for one particular time that was a big exception), but they seem belligerent, even with other orgs, despite some very real issues that their org seems to have that they never even address when confronted about it. That's what makes their tiff with us annoying, honestly.
They’re pretty based for what I can tell, but they do have a bit of the grudge against CPUSA. I don’t know too much about it though. Have you heard of Gus Hall? All I know of the dispute is PCUSA says he was a leader in early CPUSA, and they don’t talk about him, and are forgetting their roots.
I do not like them because of the amount of PatSocs that tend to join the organization, never mind Chris Helali being in it.
To be honest, their grudge goes back to their founding in 2014, when admittedly the whole Sam Webb affair came to its climax and he was ousted from the party. Angelo D'Angelo obviously had had enough after that, but honestly, some of his and his members attacks against the party seem to either indite everyone or not taken into account the realities of the time, in my honest opinion.
Of course, the truth is, I wouldn't care about PCUSA either way and, in truth, did not back then when I eventually joined the CPUSA, but of course, I find their attacks against us annoying and so it seems I'm forced to sometimes contend with them online.