▲ 628 ▼ Trump blames DC air crash on workers with "severe intellectual disabilities, psychiatric problems, or other mental or physical conditions" (apnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by SuperCub@sh.itjust.works to c/news@lemmy.world 166 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 90 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) So no idea of really how the crash happened, don't have black boxes yet. But somehow knows it was dei. Right. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 years ago (4 children) …. PAT25(?) announced that they have a visual on the CRJ. ATC instructed them to maintain visual separation and then proceed behind the CRJ. They didn’t. No maydays, no panpans. It’s pilot deviation or pilot error. What would you be interested in with the black box? If the TAWS warned the CRJ pilots? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 89 points 2 years ago (3 children) Black box is woke dei hire. wouldn't have happened if white box. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) New EO just dropped. We're calling them white boxes and painting them to prevent future tragedy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cypher@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] frunch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Are we sure Trump isn't a black box in disguise? 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent [–] boomzilla@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Grey is the new aryan white: https://sciences.social/@alfiekohn/113920184287756264 permalink fedilink source parent [–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Of course. Had it been a white box, it would have avoided this crash, we all know that! /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago You missed an even better joke with white hawk helicopter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 3 points 2 years ago Looks more like rainbow colored to me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Black Box in a black hawk. I mean come on permalink fedilink source parent [–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The ATC queries them multiple times if they have visual on the CRJ and they repeatedly respond in the affirmative. also the published helicopter corridor has them maintain a ceiling of 200 feet, they were well above 350 at the time of the collision. It's either pilot negligence or instrument failure. also TCAS is inactive below 800900 feet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago It’s pilot error or deviation. You have the CRJ in sight. You are responsible for maintaining visual separation. Full stop. Instrument failure does not apply to your eyes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryry1985@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wouldn't that be TCAS? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago You right. Helicopters aren’t terrain. My bad permalink fedilink source parent [–] Moose@moose.best 6 points 2 years ago TCAS doesn't give resolution advisories (alerts that say to climb or descend to avoid traffic) below 1000'. It does have a warning noise still, but from my understanding it's common for it to go off on approach due to all the other aircraft around and on the ground at the airport, so it may have been ignored. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago He doesn't need evidence he has "common sense" Actual quote from the press conference permalink fedilink source parent [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 years ago (4 children) …. PAT25(?) announced that they have a visual on the CRJ. ATC instructed them to maintain visual separation and then proceed behind the CRJ. They didn’t. No maydays, no panpans. It’s pilot deviation or pilot error. What would you be interested in with the black box? If the TAWS warned the CRJ pilots? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 89 points 2 years ago (3 children) Black box is woke dei hire. wouldn't have happened if white box. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) New EO just dropped. We're calling them white boxes and painting them to prevent future tragedy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cypher@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] frunch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Are we sure Trump isn't a black box in disguise? 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent [–] boomzilla@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Grey is the new aryan white: https://sciences.social/@alfiekohn/113920184287756264 permalink fedilink source parent [–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Of course. Had it been a white box, it would have avoided this crash, we all know that! /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago You missed an even better joke with white hawk helicopter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 3 points 2 years ago Looks more like rainbow colored to me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Black Box in a black hawk. I mean come on permalink fedilink source parent [–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The ATC queries them multiple times if they have visual on the CRJ and they repeatedly respond in the affirmative. also the published helicopter corridor has them maintain a ceiling of 200 feet, they were well above 350 at the time of the collision. It's either pilot negligence or instrument failure. also TCAS is inactive below 800900 feet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago It’s pilot error or deviation. You have the CRJ in sight. You are responsible for maintaining visual separation. Full stop. Instrument failure does not apply to your eyes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryry1985@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wouldn't that be TCAS? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago You right. Helicopters aren’t terrain. My bad permalink fedilink source parent [–] Moose@moose.best 6 points 2 years ago TCAS doesn't give resolution advisories (alerts that say to climb or descend to avoid traffic) below 1000'. It does have a warning noise still, but from my understanding it's common for it to go off on approach due to all the other aircraft around and on the ground at the airport, so it may have been ignored. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 89 points 2 years ago (3 children) Black box is woke dei hire. wouldn't have happened if white box. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) New EO just dropped. We're calling them white boxes and painting them to prevent future tragedy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cypher@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] frunch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Are we sure Trump isn't a black box in disguise? 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent [–] boomzilla@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Grey is the new aryan white: https://sciences.social/@alfiekohn/113920184287756264 permalink fedilink source parent [–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Of course. Had it been a white box, it would have avoided this crash, we all know that! /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago You missed an even better joke with white hawk helicopter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 3 points 2 years ago Looks more like rainbow colored to me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Black Box in a black hawk. I mean come on permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) New EO just dropped. We're calling them white boxes and painting them to prevent future tragedy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cypher@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] frunch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Are we sure Trump isn't a black box in disguise? 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent [–] boomzilla@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Grey is the new aryan white: https://sciences.social/@alfiekohn/113920184287756264 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cypher@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] frunch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Are we sure Trump isn't a black box in disguise? 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frunch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Are we sure Trump isn't a black box in disguise? 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago Grey is the new aryan white: https://sciences.social/@alfiekohn/113920184287756264 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Of course. Had it been a white box, it would have avoided this crash, we all know that! /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago You missed an even better joke with white hawk helicopter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 3 points 2 years ago Looks more like rainbow colored to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago You missed an even better joke with white hawk helicopter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 3 points 2 years ago Looks more like rainbow colored to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Black Box in a black hawk. I mean come on permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The ATC queries them multiple times if they have visual on the CRJ and they repeatedly respond in the affirmative. also the published helicopter corridor has them maintain a ceiling of 200 feet, they were well above 350 at the time of the collision. It's either pilot negligence or instrument failure. also TCAS is inactive below 800900 feet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago It’s pilot error or deviation. You have the CRJ in sight. You are responsible for maintaining visual separation. Full stop. Instrument failure does not apply to your eyes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago It’s pilot error or deviation. You have the CRJ in sight. You are responsible for maintaining visual separation. Full stop. Instrument failure does not apply to your eyes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryry1985@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Wouldn't that be TCAS? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago You right. Helicopters aren’t terrain. My bad permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago You right. Helicopters aren’t terrain. My bad permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Moose@moose.best 6 points 2 years ago TCAS doesn't give resolution advisories (alerts that say to climb or descend to avoid traffic) below 1000'. It does have a warning noise still, but from my understanding it's common for it to go off on approach due to all the other aircraft around and on the ground at the airport, so it may have been ignored. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago He doesn't need evidence he has "common sense" Actual quote from the press conference permalink fedilink source parent
[+] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent