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Like a lot of things, the original idea was a pretty good one. But, the original idea wasn't compatible with profit-seeking at all costs, or the mindsets and habits of a crew of remarkably dim members of the managerial class who had to put it all into practice. And so, the original idea got thrown in the bin, and replaced with a tradition of remarkably dim one-hour seminars which accomplish nothing at all beyond wasting an afternoon every now and then, and prejudicing people vaguely against the still-pretty-good original idea, which remains in the bin, still in its original packaging, unopened.
Boomers sexually harrased women
I do a sexual harassment training
Boomer does racist shit
I do anti racism training
Boomers only hired whites into exec rules
I do DEI training
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I am done playing some parasites games. I value my time now too much to have to hear some idiot talk down to me on behalf of the guy who sexually harasses women and minorities while refusing to promote me into executive role
Well, but if they keep giving you dumb seminars, then they won't have to stop sexual harassing, racism-ing, or stealing everything for them and their golf-asshole friends. And at the end of the day, isn't that what's really important?
It's a bummer you're getting downvoted so heavily, there should be room for nuance here. I really don't think the DEI seminars (in particular! Not talking DEI initiatives in general) have much of an impact, if anything they probably do more harm than good. Everyone that already agrees gets nothing but wasted time, and those that seriously disagree are not going to change from an effort like this, and how many are truly on the fence by now and just need things explained clearly and then they won't be an asshole?
These seminars are literal HR checklists so the legal department can say they "have a robust DEI program, just look at all these trainings" - if they get sued. That's it, it's the most cynical empty "effort" ever.
Companies that actually give a shit are run by people who actually give a shit. In my experience, people who actually give a shit explicitly do not rely on impersonal shotgun blast seminars to try to create a safe healthy workplace. The seminars exist to grant plausible deniability to the terminally self-centered.
Edit: spelling
Yes and no. He’s getting downvoted for a lack of nuance. And a lot of comments about ‘parasites’ and other stuff.
DEI seminars can be weird for sure. it’s like someone said above, its a good idea but was turned into a tickbox, which, is what corporations do. That doesn’t mean get rid of it, that means improve it. That, in turn, means invest in it. That’s where the company usually gets off the bus. Because the company are usually a bunch of heteronormative white people who can’t see the value in it.
exactly
Pshh, getting a free 1-slice pizza lunch at work to go over, “don’t be racist” slides is a dream.
Sure depends on the job. When I'm behind on my tasks, paid salary, and am usually the most hardcore left person in the room? And when these seminars exist solely to grant plausible deniability to executives if they're sued for discrimination? Keep the pizza and the disingenuous concern and let me do my job. The people teaching the seminars I've attended know fuck-all about the history of oppression in this country anyway, it's all performative and we shouldn't defend it as helpful.
Exempt salary is dogshit. I played that game for years. I was paid exactly, to the dollar, the amount you have to pay someone so they don't make overtime. Nobody else was allowed to work overtime.
Guess who worked all the overtime, for free?
The worst I ever got abused that way was right after college - I worked for salary, but my company billed me out hourly, and they increased the rate substantially for emergency call outs, AKA for me going to work when I am not scheduled to and do not want to - and am not paid to.
There was one Saturday where my family and friends went to the beer festival without me, I went unexpectedly to work, the company made thousands off my Saturday, and I got a pat on the back. That was the day I started getting myself outta that situation, shit was unbelievable. Not a large company either, maybe ~100 employees, and it was a ~common practice in the industry (field service for industrial controls).
Some HR parasite somewhere