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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (28 children)

Isn't blacks (noun) considered dehumanizing?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (24 children)

what word would you use instead?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ebony, or GoneWildColor as the existing reddit community was already named.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Calling black people "ebony" is like calling white people "porcelain". It's romanticising their skin colour. It may make sense for things like porn, but please don't refer to any group with that sort of name in a normal context. It's incredibly weird.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly right, but the context being discussed is porn.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, but you've also said that referring to people as "black" is dehumanising, and then you were asked what word you'd use instead.
At this moment it isn't unreasonable to think the context has changed from porn community titles to your personal thoughts on how to refer to a specific ethnic group in any situation.
That's how I (and I assume many others) read the situation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, but you’ve also said that referring to people as “black” is dehumanising

No. Myself, and the commenter who was being responded to, said that referring to Black people as "blacks" is dehumanizing, which it is, and the context being asked for was an alternative term for an NSFW community. Hopefully that clarifies the issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they prefer black like native Americans prefer Indians. Can we call people white? I've never heard anyone wants to be called ebony. I only know the term ebony from porn

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"Pretty sure they"...

Nope, I'll stop you right there. And the context is porn. Note, again, the term being discussed is not Black, which is perfectly kosher, but referring to Black people as "blacks", which is considered dehumanizing.

As for alternatives, the existing PoC-run reddit communities are called Ebony, GoneWildColor, GWBlackGirls, etc. Hopefully that gives you some insight.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah because the majority of blacks use reddit and ebony porn sites. So do you call them ebonies?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not exactly sure what you're asking, but no, collective nouns aren't generally pluralized in English, nor is the term appropriate outside of a porn context. Are you a native English speaker?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is the term acceptable to porn, do they not use English?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's far more acceptable than "blacks". It also avoids the issue of associating general search terms for groups of people with sexualized contexts as has unfortunately been done to Asian women and others.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pfffffft, sounds like a load of bs. What about Brazilians?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Brazilian isn't a race, and Black isn't a nationality. Incredibly, it's even possible to be both. I hope your confusion has been cleared up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You said Asians. So what about Persians?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I lived in Kenya, basically every one called me musungu which is used for westerns but means literally "white face", I don't think I felt dehumanised, but that was years ago before Chinese people invaded Kenya.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Oh, sorry, my point of view from another part of the world that doesn't endorse your agenda is too much inconvenient for you?

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