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The Racism which happened in FOSS (beehaw.org)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hello, so a few days ago now, a lot of Racism happened in FOSS and we were wondering what happened to those that were racist by defending the cultural appropriation which was pointed out, either directly or by ridicule.

Sadly the original post (and thus the comments) is gone, though we saved screenshots of all the offending people and posts.

We would like to know if anything was done about these people as we can see nothing in the modlog.

Thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From a cursory search, there seem to be some expressions claimed as AAE that weren’t a thing until the 2010s, colliding with non-AAE ones. That’s not going to end well.

https://oxfordre.com/linguistics/display/10.1093/acrefore/9780199384655.001.0001/acrefore-9780199384655-e-926

Like, trying to keep a dialect segregated, because marginalized people want to… what, be more segregated? Seriously?

It feels like you are listening but not understanding. Think of AAE as a closed practice. You can learn about, you can view it from the outside, but it is not yours to use as you please. It is about solidarity, not segregation. A fine line, but one that has been set by the people who's culture it is

PS: should there be a “marginalized” tag for people?

I don't think so, and it is not just black folks on Lemmy asking people outside the culture not to use AAE. I know no culture is a monolith, but a majority have been saying that for a long time.

I still think of people of color as just people

This has some real "I don't see color" vibes. I get the sentiment, you try not to discriminate, but that also ignores black folk's lived experiences.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Think of AAE as a closed practice. You can learn about, you can view it from the outside, but it is not yours to use as you please.

Help me understand this. It makes no sense to me. I don't even know where to begin thinking about it in terms that I can understand.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure. Closed practice is usually in reference to religious practices. Voodoo/Hoodoo are the 2 most commonly referenced closed practices, but a lot of Native Americans have closed practices as well. It basically means unless you are part of that culture, it is not for you and you should not attempt to practice. You miss a lot of the cultural significance and often cause damage to the practice (using white sage for cleansing rituals is a great example). They are often appropriated and misrepresented as evil.

AAE, while not religious in nature, has a lot of cultural reference and significance. It is often misrepresented and appropriated without regards to the cultural origin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for explaining further. This is not something I've ever thought about so I'm going to take time to process it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Of course, happy to help