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"Naive and outdated" that's one way to describe sending $30B in arms to a genocide. Others would call it "complicity in genocide". Like, experts in international law.
Been on lemmy.world for the last month or so you guys, I fucking hate it. Arguing with "we had to vote for Harris"ers until some vigilante mod decides my angry response to their support for genocide isn't "civil" enough.
Experts in international law, the ICC, correctly blame Israel, not Biden.
https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-state-palestine-icc-pre-trial-chamber-i-rejects-state-israels-challenges
The reason I say "naive" is that Biden persists in this mentality that Israel is just some poor victim surrounded by hostile Arab states and Israel hasn't been a legit victim since... what? The 1972 Olympics?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre
If you look at what Israel has been doing to Gaza since the 90s, it's a slow motion version of the ghettoization of the Jews in Nazi Germany.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip
The link you put does not excuse Biden. Why lie?
Meanwhile, back in reality:
https://www.amnestyusa.org/press-releases/amnesty-international-warns-of-u-s-complicity-in-war-crimes-in-gaza/
https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-center/press-releases/rights-lawyers-release-legal-analysis-us-complicity-israel-s
Please study the Nakba, you're not just embarrassing yourself but whitewashing a history of genocide.
Show me where the ICC charged Biden the way they did Netanyahu or Putin, it's cool. I can wait.
In fact, show me which of the 5 definitions of Genocide Biden meets under article II of the UN charter.
Pro tip - You can't, because they didn't.
I'm all for blaming Israel for the Genocide, they are 100% doing it and will not stop unless someone invades and makes them stop.
That doesn't mean Biden was doing it.
The absence of legal proceedings against someone for a crime does not mean they didn't commit the crime. Are you serious?
Another red flag, you're confusing the UN Charter with the UN Genocide Convention, which is what has an "Article II" that defines genocide. Imagine making these kinds of mistakes and posting publicly with the kind of confidence you have. What a dick.
Re: the UN Genocide Convention (not the UN Charter), if you bothered to read Article THREE, it outlines conspiracy to commit genocide as a crime independent of genocide itself, as well as direct and public incitement to commit genocide, and complicity in genocide. By any sane metric he's guilty of multiple of these - even if we ignore the diplomatic, logistical, military, and economic support Biden gave to "Israel" for its genocide, he is also guilty of spreading genocidal incitement propaganda, namely atrocity propaganda about Oct. 7 meant to dehumanize Palestinians.
The ICC, by the way, does not enforce the UN Genocide Convention - rather, the ICJ, a different body, would issue a ruling, if a lawsuit was brought against a state party by another state party, and the UN Security Council - which the US has veto power over - would decide on any enforcement of that ruling.
No, I'm saying when the ICC went to lay blame, they correctly blamed Israel, NOT Biden.
They had every opportunity to charge Biden. Clearly they aren't shy about charging major players after charging Putin.
They correctly blame Netanyahu. At no point has Biden ever said "Sure, please, kill as many Palestinians as you want" because that was never the purpose of the aid sent to Israel.
It's all cited in the thread. Biden supports the defense of Israel, not their offensive actions. The genocide is not defense.
Sorry, I really have a thing about not having endless circular arguments with some asshole who's completely wrong and incapable of admitting it. Tbph you should relinquish your control of any community you mod because your faculties for judgment are just about nonexistent.
You're really committed to defending people who committed genocide
No, I'm commited to blaming the people actually committing genocide:
https://lemmy.world/comment/14643153
No, you're committed to defending them
Lol, what absolute nonsense; the US isn't some naive UWU smol bean full of good will that Israel is abusing; that's completely fucking absurd.
You're a genocide apologist, fuck off. You might as well say that the guards at Auschwitz were manipulating poor naive Hitler and the blood is only on their hands, no one else.