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I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of 'hitlerites'

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (5 children)

Hexbear.net is a Left-Unity instance populated mainly by Marxists and Anarchists. They generally don't get along with Lemmy.world, whose admins defederated from the major Marxist-aligned instances.

Whether you block Hexbear is up to you, I enjoy my time there a lot but it's also because I'm a Marxist. The ones saying they are "pretending" to be Leftist never seem to be able to explain why a large group of people would all ironically have theory reading groups and ironically support trans rights for years, even before federating with anyone else. What would they have to gain?

If I were you, I'd ask on an instance actually federated with them. You'll get different perspectives than you will here, which is always the case when it comes to controversial topics like Marxism, where opinion varies greatly from instance to instance.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

The reason they got defederated from so many major instances is less to do with the politics and more to do with the spam, brigading, and bad faith interactions that had no intention of civility.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

This is objectively untrue, Lemmy.world refused to ever federate, as, in their own words, a "pre-emptive last resort".

In their statement, the reasoning they explicitly highlighted was Hexbear's stances like being against western propaganda and disliking the mass overseas wars driven by the US. Don't believe me? You can read it here - https://lemmy.world/post/2498330

So no, Hexbear was very explicitly defederated because of politics.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I really don't think they are a left-unity instance considering that they get very upset and unpleasant to talk to if you don't support authoritarianism or their alternative "facts."

Like I'm cool with all sorts of different leftist viewpoints and I think it's necessary that we support each other, but I draw the line at authoritarianism and rewriting history.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Anarchists are explicitly welcome, so authoritarianism is definitely not a requirement. And what "alternative facts"?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The issue with hexbear isn’t Marxism or anarchism or communism, it’s apologism for violent authoritarian regimes to the point of insisting on an “alternative facts” version of “history”.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Alternative facts is when you refuse to admit you were wrong after carrying water for a single source white supremacist even when all the major media platforms that boosted the claim dropped it years ago.

So for years, as a 'good leftist', you continue repeating blood libel while you scream at people to support a capitalist committing genocide.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I really can’t tell what you are talking about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Left-Unity instance

I doubt it or I'd be over there. Instead, I got attacked and mocked by a circlejerking mob of angsty teens from Hexbear operating in bad faith for remotely questioning something about communism and then got permabanned from Lemmy.ml. I didn't even attack it! 😂

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Credit where credit is due, youre honest and youre correct. Have my upvote!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

I try to be both, lol. Thanks!