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jointhefediverse.net seems to be a commonly linked resource for directing people to join the Fediverse.

Curiously, it does not list Lemmy under the list of Reddit alternatives. Their GitHub README explains why.

Previous relevant discussion: https://lemmy.ml/post/78808

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (32 children)

So, I should quit Lemmy now too?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

So far I haven't found a better alternative. Lemmy communities are already much smaller than their Reddit counterparts.

Personally, I don't plan to venture into even more remote locations. It defeats the community part of it...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It certainly is! The only "bad" part is the lack of a mobile client. And it kinda looks funky on mobile.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The Thunder client is a godsend for Lemmy, I'm so happy with the work that developer has done. I feel like I'm still back on Reddit using Relay in the compact view.

For any of these alternatives to succeed mobile apps have to exist, and I doubt all the devs that popped up to make Lemmy apps want to retool yet again for a different platform.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's not so much that we expect the developers of Lemmy apps to retool. The hope is that, if we can provide a sensible, well-documented API, then it will appeal to front-end developers looking for a project. Also, if there are any devs of Lemmy mobile apps who are unhappy with Lemmy's API for any reason, then getting involved with PieFed's whilst it's still in development, offers them a chance to shape one to their desires.

Speaking of Thunder though - I've been able to compile it for desktop, and get it working with PieFed's API in the state it's in now. I've no experience with Flutter / Dart or front-end development, so it suggests that - for open source Lemmy apps, at least - it doesn't need to be the original author who ports it, and that the actual details a particular API are only a relatively small part of creating a good mobile app.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm guessing you had to make some changes? I get a url error when putting in piefed.social but the logo appears.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Oh yeah, sorry. I didn't mention that the API isn't available on production sites like piefed.social. I've been messing around with a build of Thunder on my dev instance, and - among other things - the app doesn't uses the same V3 endpoint that Lemmy does, so it'd always need to be a different version than the one that's currently available for Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Same feeling with Sync for lemmy. Basically the same experience of reddit I've been using for years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You can access the same communities on kbin. Does that change anything though?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

If I could use a single identity across the whole Fediverse, I would. Unfortunately, that's not a reality yet.

So we're forced to choose instances (i.e. "home servers"). And for me, that means I'd only choose to stick with the largest ones, as they have the highest chances of providing me with a sort of permanence.

I don't see any big mbin instances:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

You can select "All" instead of "Local" and you will see all instances that are federated with yours. (Not the ones defederated).

I wish we could do the same in communities that have the same name. "All" gaming and you could see every instances gaming community. Or select "Local" to see your instance only.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I actually use "Subscribed" because I don't want to see posts from random communities. Haha...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

you are aware that you aren't restricted to things on your instance right? what your talking about is literally what the fediverse is. also who cares how big an instance is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

you are aware that you aren’t restricted to things on your instance right?

I'm not new to the Fediverse, so yes, I'm aware of that, and also of the drama that comes with defederation (lmao)

also who cares how big an instance is?

I’d only choose to stick with the largest ones, as they have the highest chances of providing me with a sort of permanence.

Or in other words, they're much less likely to just shut down without notice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

https://fedia.io/ has 413 monthly active users, how big do you need the instance to be, especially when all the content is available there too?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Didn't they close registration tho? Lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Fair point, but at this time, I'm on mastodon.social and lemmy.world, i.e. some of the largest instances. I simply don't have much motivation to migrate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

kbin.earth and other kbin instances have migrated to mbin. Only the domain names remain the same.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

https://fedia.io/ is the 'big' mbin server, but they appear to have closed registrations at some point

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

It's a shame kbin.social is no more. I guess Fedia.io is as big as it gets now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

That answers that.

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