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My thoughts on veganism (lemmygrad.ml)

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I escaped the Reddit regime a little while ago. I consider myself a marxist-leninist-MZT. Vegetarian and vegan for a few years. I've a lot of thoughts on how marxism and veganism are connected. Never wrote them down. I'd like to start smth like a club for marxist vegans to develop our own proletarian theory. Most vegan theory I found is either openly bourgeois (Francione is a literal TERF) or revisionist (anti-China, anarchist, libertarian). How about fixing this?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

This is the 4th year I am a vegan. Before that for one year I was a vegetarian. Idk how to contribute to this, but I support you.

Although honestly I think there is nothing really we can do, when people are so numb emotionally, can't really raise this bar for or in others. I agree with the person who said: live life according to your values and influence people that way.

It's the same with homelessness or starvation, poverty. It's cool you save one and it it everything for that specific one, but it's all or nothing.

I'd maybe incentivise people who feel the weight of this to post things into the vegan community and share stuff that actually matters rather than just recipes.

Bottom line is that no change will come unless humanity realises that all of life on this planet, or maybe even in the universe is one organism (?) and we are (at least on earth) the responsible species to cater to all forms of life in this scenario, rather than just to our own selves or our species. Nonetheless this is just wishful thinking, or idealism or something so far in our evolution, that we can't even comprehend it yet, some may can't even see the point of it yet.

Honestly, I am not blaming other vegans, I understand the anger and shock, but wtf do you expect when we have not yet even came to the stage in our evolution as a whole that every one of us grows up to and is being educated to be a decent human being. Our concepts on life and what we do here in this lifetime are so primitive that I don't think you can convince yourself that you can reasonably expect people to not kill an other life form for very fucking obvious reasons, especially when there is absolutely and without a doubt no need to do so. All of us here experiences that we can't even fucking set a universal moral code yet, or unite humanity, or at least build socialism alrady globally, so expecting emotional and moral development that is not yet even present in human lifeform to extend to other lifeforms is I think just setting yourself up for failure.

This is the same primitive mindset that rules all other part of our life, that just wants to R word life in every way, no difference.

Whatever. Try to influence people by example, nothing else works anyways.