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To everyone who’s been telling OP off, claiming “free speech” and such: there’s still free speech. They can say whatever they want, but we don’t want to hear it. To correct myself: the majority of us don’t want to hear it. You have every right to convert instances if you disagree. Moderation is always going to be opinion-based; everyone has their own opinion of right and wrong.
So don’t talk about “free speech” and then wonder why you get downvoted into oblivion. We simply don’t want to have to deal with this nonsense. Keep in mind too that Lemmy doesn’t let you block an instance yet(AFAIK); it’s up to the instance admins. Just like a government, a user is going to pick the instance to best represent them. And just like a government, that instance will probably act in favor of the majority. So please just stop complaining. There is no plus to federating with rammy.site and frankly, we don’t need them.
I'm gonna add that free speech is free speech as long as it's not used to threat and intimidate. Those people do not know what real free speech is.
It's you who don't seem to understand what free speech is. Free speech is free speech period. As long as you have free speech you shouldn't be concerned about someone intimidating you because you always have the chance to answer back and the truth always prevail on evil and bullshit.
You dont understand the consequences of this take, I hope you get to understand one day.
I too hope that you understand that freedom is the only viable way to truth and justice
I too hope that you understand that breakfast is the only viable way to pancakes and maple syrup
Bullshit. You can have pancakes and maple syrup for any meal of the day.
Are you ok?
I too hope that you understand that pancakes is the only viable way to blueberries and syrup.
If you are interested in anime and japanese novels there's plenty of these that will teach you about freedom and free speech, one piece is probably one of the most popular.
God this response is so adorable lol
Free speech is the ability to speak freely. It is not the ability to speak freely without consequence nor a guarantee to have people listen to what you say. Someone telling you to fuck off and shut up because they don't want to hear your bullshit is their free speech right.
You seem to be confusing the ability to open your mouth and talk with free speech. If i speak freely and get arrested or censored as a consequence of my words, that's no free speech.
Actually, even in "fullest freedom of speech" places like the US or Canada, that does not extend to actionable threats. If you threaten a person in a context where they actually think they are in danger, that's a crime.
Free speech also doesn't apply to harassment in pretty much any country. If it did you could never have something like a no-contact order on an abusive ex-partner, for example.
At the very extreme end, free speech has plenty of limits even in the West. CP, snuff films, grooming, non-consentual distribution of sexual images, incitement of violence, etc are all illegal. For obvious reasons.
Yes free speech is limited even in the west and we have plenty of political prisoners and people persecuted for their ideas
Oh to be so naive.
In the face of facts proving the election was not stolen while Trump presented zero evidence to show it was... how many Republicans still believe the lies to this day? It doesn't help that the entire party carries water to support the lies...
What has this to do with free speech? Trump become the president because USA is a corrupted country that has nothing to share with an actual democracy. The government spend billions on propaganda and it has a whole rigged system backing it, and yet they are still vulnerable to simple facts
This is no free speech platform. Go over to the server rules at https://mastodon.world/about
*yells "fire" in a crowded theater
*Yells "nuuuuh uuuuuuh." Back
Panic subsidies and movie watching continues.