Dear Admins of the Lemmy.world instance I am asking that you please consider defederating from the rammy.site instance as soon as possible as the admin is no where to be found and it has been taken over by right wing posters posting hateful messages. There are also other people posting large amounts of spam and creating empty communities. What was once a small hobby run general purpose instance has been turned over and made into a festering right wing hate filled breeding ground by the people from exploding-heads. The only recoarse left it seems is to defederate to prevent them from spreading hate to other instances.

PS. I already sent this message to multiple admins here, sorry about that I just felt it was urgent to make sure the message was sent before these people cause more damage.

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[+] -91 points 3 years ago (17 children)

It's you who don't seem to understand what free speech is. Free speech is free speech period. As long as you have free speech you shouldn't be concerned about someone intimidating you because you always have the chance to answer back and the truth always prevail on evil and bullshit.

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  • [โ€“] 29 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    You dont understand the consequences of this take, I hope you get to understand one day.

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  • [+] -45 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I too hope that you understand that freedom is the only viable way to truth and justice

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  • [+] 28 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
  • [โ€“] 27 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Free speech is the ability to speak freely. It is not the ability to speak freely without consequence nor a guarantee to have people listen to what you say. Someone telling you to fuck off and shut up because they don't want to hear your bullshit is their free speech right.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 3 years ago

    is not the ability to speak freely without consequence

    You seem to be confusing the ability to open your mouth and talk with free speech. If i speak freely and get arrested or censored as a consequence of my words, that's no free speech.

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  • [โ€“] 21 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    Actually, even in "fullest freedom of speech" places like the US or Canada, that does not extend to actionable threats. If you threaten a person in a context where they actually think they are in danger, that's a crime.

    Free speech also doesn't apply to harassment in pretty much any country. If it did you could never have something like a no-contact order on an abusive ex-partner, for example.

    At the very extreme end, free speech has plenty of limits even in the West. CP, snuff films, grooming, non-consentual distribution of sexual images, incitement of violence, etc are all illegal. For obvious reasons.

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  • [โ€“] 18 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    the truth always prevail on evil and bullshit.

    Oh to be so naive.

    In the face of facts proving the election was not stolen while Trump presented zero evidence to show it was... how many Republicans still believe the lies to this day? It doesn't help that the entire party carries water to support the lies...

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 3 years ago

    What has this to do with free speech? Trump become the president because USA is a corrupted country that has nothing to share with an actual democracy. The government spend billions on propaganda and it has a whole rigged system backing it, and yet they are still vulnerable to simple facts

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