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[–] [email protected] 88 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Oh boy, identity mechanics to curb out the last vestiges of privacy.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They're pretty much declaring a war on VPNs also

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yep. More than half the time I can't access Reddit through Proton VPN.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I can. But i have an account.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Meh. Thanks but fuck Reddit anyway.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago

Also doesn’t fix the problem at all, I can still just use AI to post to my main account

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wonder where people in the future will get their information from. What trustworthy sources of information are there? If the internet is overrun with bots, then you can't really trust anything you read there, as it could all be propaganda. What else to do, though, to get your news?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

That's the killer app right there: the complete inability for the common person to distinguish between true and false. That's what they're going for.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

you could try to cook up some kind of trust chain, without totally abandoning privacy.

Get a government-certified agencies minting master key tied to your id. You only get one, with trust rating tied to it.

With that master key you can generate infinite amount of sub-ids that dont identify you but show your trust rating(fuzzed).

Have a cross-network reporting system that can lower that rating for abuses like botting.

idk Im just spitballing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What's stopping me from using my key to post ai slop?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

The slop will be caught, your rating lowered until all your messages are simply filtered out as spam.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

let me scan your eyeballs. it’s the only way

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I dunno, part of me is ok with it. It's clear to me how bad things are going to get. So having certain platforms or spaces with some level of public identity validation seems like it might be ok....

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Well, it’s a great method to find people to target for political speech.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Especially when it's about gathering real information. When everything you read is written by an anonymous author, you'd have no chance to know whether it's true or wrong, except if it's a paper on theoretical maths of course.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, a real problem solver would probably be to remove the incentive for someone to do this.

It would probably be far less likely for someone to do that on lemmy, as there is no karma and you dont get paid for upvotes or something. (Still there are incentives, like creating credibility, celebrity accounts, maybe influence public opinion, self-pleasure from seeing upvotes to "your" posts/comments etc., but they arent such potent incetives as directly monetary incetives.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wait what. I had been on reddit for years and I had never been aware of this. You get paid for upvotes?

And I thought "karma" was just another word for "upvotes".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Well since around a year ago they decided to give some direct monetary incentive to farm upvotes and gold, as people weren't already doing this to sell accounts.

https://old.reddit.com/r/contributorprogram/comments/16rzlkf/understanding_contributor_earnings_payouts/