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Illegals are illegal. Even if they claim asylum. Claiming something does not mean you are that something. If I tell a democrat that I am a god, does that make it true? DeSantis signed the law that all employers with 25 or more employees use E-Verify from Senate Bill 1718 back in May 2023. So far, it is not a doomsday situation with the Florida economy that the illegal lovers claim it would be. The refugee system needs to be reformed.
Jesus turned his back on the needy.
You should help good people. Just because you are needy does not make you a good person. The problem with Christianity is that it helps the needy, and expect no reciprocity. You know in India, if you give them stuff, and help them out, they think you are an inferior class, a servant. It is a matter of interpretation. A lot of these people from these countries are used to expecting things from people, that it is taking advantage. It is that mentality that is part of the psyche that forms corruption in their country of origin. The problem with the immigration laws is that anybody who lives in a poor country can justify leaving their country and go straight for America, because the pay is better and there are actually jobs. Indeed, many do exactly that.
Define good.
Apparently, you think needy people are good people. As I already said, that is not true. The person can be needy because he is lazy, antisocial, and materialistic. Your definition of good is very loose and only seems significant in terms of classism. Why are needy people good is the question you must answer because that is what you implied. So explain, why are needy people, or poor people good? You made the claim, it is up to you to make the point why that is. My point is, not all people are good, but you are implying all needy people are good.
I didn't say needy people are good, I asked for your definition of good. Which you failed to provide.
People end up in need for a wide variety of reasons. There is no shame in asking for help, nor does that make you a good or bad person. In fact, as a ratio of their income, poor people donate more to charities than middle or upper class people. Why? Because they can empathise with the recipients, as they may have been in the same situation themselves in the past.
Let me give you an example of needy: hard working family, never been in trouble, own the house they live in, help out with charities and school events. Good people and rolemodels. Their kid gets really sick, and the family goes bankrupt paying medical bills and lose their house. The family now replies on support from family, friends and the government. - Are they no longer good because they are now needy?