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A new high-speed train service linking Paris and Berlin was launched on Monday – just in time for the Christmas travel season. Joint operators SNCF and Deutsche Bahn say they hope passengers will see it as a "greener" alternative to flying.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

8 hours vs 10, and even worse, surge pricing. So the busier it is, the more it costs. Stuff that. It's just not real world attractive

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Conversely, it's cheaper if you're flexible. Which poorer people generally are. I have no problem with yield-management pricing, In Europe it's been incredibly successful at boosting low-cost air travel (unfortunately) and in recent years it's finally doing the same thing for rail travel. Fixed prices make no sense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why would poorer people be more flexible? What’s that claim based on exactly?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The fact that they tend to have more time than money.

Seems you're being triggered by the word but I mean it in a neutral sense. I'm sort of one of them myself.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What? Poor people are incredibly inflexible, working two jobs, juggling kids, zero hours contracts etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Fine, let's stick with fixed fares then. Then poor passengers will have a choice of expensive packed trains or expensive empty trains, just like everyone else. Equality will be served.

PS. Yes, downvote away. Contrarianism and negativity do not actually produce solutions. Again: I myself could qualify as "poor". I want more people to take the train instead of the plane, do you? The outdated fixed-fare system is stopping it from happening.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The outdated fixed-fare system is stopping it from happening.

Not sure if that helps poor people. I make a solid amount of money and am very flexible, as I can work just as well in the train as I could in the office. An assambly line worker surely cannot do that and likely has to travel on weekends when the prices are high (potentially higher than before).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Students, young people in general, part-time workers, unemployed, underemployed, I don't have the statistics and obviously it depends on the country but these days there are a ton of people who have more time than money. Again, I am one of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah sure there are some, but most poor people will not profit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, a baseless claim always triggers me, especially if the person then responds with a personal attack instead of supporting their claim

Says enough haha

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

It hardly needs sourcing to assert that people with limited financial means tend to be more flexible when it comes to saving money. Again, I'm one of them myself. And I've neither attacked you personally nor even downvoted you. Anyway, enough.