▲ 544 ▼ The People Cheering the UnitedHealthcare CEO Shooting (nymag.com) submitted 2 years ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 162 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://archive.is/KCUby
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No. If you omit it, you reinforce the belief of fascists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] galanthus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Is this an actual reason for why people do that, an ad hoc explanation, or a view that just a few people hold? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) People are lazy. But, yes, many people who do write "/s" do it so that fascists know we're making fun of them, not reinforcing their beliefs. It's the same reason Mein Kampf requires footnotes in Germany, by law permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] galanthus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok fine, I can accept this can be used SOMETIMES when you need to make something completely unambiguous, but more often than not you want the opposite - amd most things don't have anything to do with nazism, and sarcasm can be picked up easily usually as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Starship Troopers. American Psycho. Taxi Driver. Joker. South Park. All of these are celebrated by the right because they failed to understand that I was actually a criticism of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] galanthus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I understand that idiots can misunderstand something if it is ambiguous, but that does not mean that ambiguity should be forbidden. If at the end of "American Psycho" there was a title saying "this film is a criticism of capitalist culture and its effect on people", it would be worse as a film, a work of art and a statement than it is now. It would be ridiculous and disrespectful towards the audience. It's literally in the name, "american psycho", it is almost stated explicitly, but they STILL do not get it. What is it that you want exactly? Our media and discourse to be made with only unintelligent people in mind? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Is this an actual reason for why people do that, an ad hoc explanation, or a view that just a few people hold? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) People are lazy. But, yes, many people who do write "/s" do it so that fascists know we're making fun of them, not reinforcing their beliefs. It's the same reason Mein Kampf requires footnotes in Germany, by law permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] galanthus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok fine, I can accept this can be used SOMETIMES when you need to make something completely unambiguous, but more often than not you want the opposite - amd most things don't have anything to do with nazism, and sarcasm can be picked up easily usually as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Starship Troopers. American Psycho. Taxi Driver. Joker. South Park. All of these are celebrated by the right because they failed to understand that I was actually a criticism of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] galanthus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I understand that idiots can misunderstand something if it is ambiguous, but that does not mean that ambiguity should be forbidden. If at the end of "American Psycho" there was a title saying "this film is a criticism of capitalist culture and its effect on people", it would be worse as a film, a work of art and a statement than it is now. It would be ridiculous and disrespectful towards the audience. It's literally in the name, "american psycho", it is almost stated explicitly, but they STILL do not get it. What is it that you want exactly? Our media and discourse to be made with only unintelligent people in mind? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) People are lazy. But, yes, many people who do write "/s" do it so that fascists know we're making fun of them, not reinforcing their beliefs. It's the same reason Mein Kampf requires footnotes in Germany, by law permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] galanthus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok fine, I can accept this can be used SOMETIMES when you need to make something completely unambiguous, but more often than not you want the opposite - amd most things don't have anything to do with nazism, and sarcasm can be picked up easily usually as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Starship Troopers. American Psycho. Taxi Driver. Joker. South Park. All of these are celebrated by the right because they failed to understand that I was actually a criticism of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] galanthus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I understand that idiots can misunderstand something if it is ambiguous, but that does not mean that ambiguity should be forbidden. If at the end of "American Psycho" there was a title saying "this film is a criticism of capitalist culture and its effect on people", it would be worse as a film, a work of art and a statement than it is now. It would be ridiculous and disrespectful towards the audience. It's literally in the name, "american psycho", it is almost stated explicitly, but they STILL do not get it. What is it that you want exactly? Our media and discourse to be made with only unintelligent people in mind? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok fine, I can accept this can be used SOMETIMES when you need to make something completely unambiguous, but more often than not you want the opposite - amd most things don't have anything to do with nazism, and sarcasm can be picked up easily usually as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Starship Troopers. American Psycho. Taxi Driver. Joker. South Park. All of these are celebrated by the right because they failed to understand that I was actually a criticism of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] galanthus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I understand that idiots can misunderstand something if it is ambiguous, but that does not mean that ambiguity should be forbidden. If at the end of "American Psycho" there was a title saying "this film is a criticism of capitalist culture and its effect on people", it would be worse as a film, a work of art and a statement than it is now. It would be ridiculous and disrespectful towards the audience. It's literally in the name, "american psycho", it is almost stated explicitly, but they STILL do not get it. What is it that you want exactly? Our media and discourse to be made with only unintelligent people in mind? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Starship Troopers. American Psycho. Taxi Driver. Joker. South Park. All of these are celebrated by the right because they failed to understand that I was actually a criticism of them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] galanthus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I understand that idiots can misunderstand something if it is ambiguous, but that does not mean that ambiguity should be forbidden. If at the end of "American Psycho" there was a title saying "this film is a criticism of capitalist culture and its effect on people", it would be worse as a film, a work of art and a statement than it is now. It would be ridiculous and disrespectful towards the audience. It's literally in the name, "american psycho", it is almost stated explicitly, but they STILL do not get it. What is it that you want exactly? Our media and discourse to be made with only unintelligent people in mind? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I understand that idiots can misunderstand something if it is ambiguous, but that does not mean that ambiguity should be forbidden. If at the end of "American Psycho" there was a title saying "this film is a criticism of capitalist culture and its effect on people", it would be worse as a film, a work of art and a statement than it is now. It would be ridiculous and disrespectful towards the audience. It's literally in the name, "american psycho", it is almost stated explicitly, but they STILL do not get it. What is it that you want exactly? Our media and discourse to be made with only unintelligent people in mind? permalink fedilink source parent