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Well, okay...I don't stan them.
But I have mixed feelings about them.

As a kid I was really into Star Wars and looked up to the Jedi, so I think it's a hold over from that.
The Jedi are flawed, foolish, short-sighted and kind of cowardly (among other things) and The Republic is a stagnant beasts with an inefficient anachronistic and byzantine system where the worst kind of poverty has existed for millennia.
...But I still kind of like them, despite their tragic faults.

Well...Idk if I like The Republic as depicted in Star Wars, in some ways I hate it.
But the idea of a galactic society where hundreds if not thousands of peoples and cultures are brought together to coexist is one I really like, and I can understand in the early days why the Jedi would of supported the creation of such an organization.
Of course it is just that, an idea , and the lore is filled with the many ways The Republic as a bourgeoise order failed these ideals.

Ultimately I think the Jedi erred in so closely associating themselves with and mooring themselves to a state.
Their understanding of the force and themselves is also incomplete or lacking, I think.
But at the end of the day I still like the little space wizard monks.
I respect their aim in controlling their emotions (even if it often materializes in suppression instead) and in being diplomats and peacekeepers for the galaxy (even if it often materializes in propping up an unjust status quo).

But now I am starting to ramble about children's media, which is an unforgivable crime, so I'll stop.

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[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Have you checked out the High Republic? It's very much "What if we go back to when the Republic was awesome and the rot hadn't taken hold yet".

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

I've heard of the High Republic, but idk what it is.
I haven't looked into it, besides seeing a tweet of it's announcement or something and it's host (?) trying to be cancelled by racists.
What is it?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Basically a new "era" of Star Wars set a few centuries before the Prequels. There's a few novels set in it that have just been published, and also some comics and I believe a couple of character shorts on the Star Wars youtube channel? The racists are angry because Star Wars is once again allowing women and black people to be in space.

The standard intro is the novel Light of the Jedi, which actually made it to the number one bestseller on NYT.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Interesting.
Tbh my understanding/ interpretation of the time between the Ruusan reforms and TPM was that the rot was getting really bad.
Which was one of the reasons Palpatine could spark a separatist rebellion and the formation of an Empire.

But I guess the reforms and the defeat of the sith could of ushered in a Golden Age, that slowly eroded.
I'm open to it I guess, but I think a big part of the narrative leading up to the movies is the Republic and Jedi are deeply flawed, so something that overly valorizes them might be hit or miss.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

It hasn't been explicitly stated but the impression the setting gives is that the war with the Sith fucked things up WAY MORE than it did in Legends. In the time of the High Republic, Coruscant is not even completely covered in city yet.

In essence the rot hasn't had time to set in because they're only barely finishing repairing the damage of the last gigantic galactic war, only mere centuries before the Prequels, which in essence implies that the Republic that stood for thousands of years was really only at the height of its fabled power for a fraction of that time, and a lot of the early time was spent scrabbling to put things together.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

I'm confused.
So it was a Golden Age, but Coruscant was barely together and they were still recovering from the wars with the sith?

which in essence implies that the Republic that stood for thousands of years was really only at the height of its fabled power for a fraction of that time, and a lot of the early time was spent scrabbling to put things together.

also not sure I comprehend what you are trying to say here.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 years ago

It's a very...Roosevelty New Deal type of Golden Age. It's a Golden Age because the government is constantly funding various infrastructure mega projects across the galaxy, but the mega projects are needed for a reason, too.

I was trying to say that we had previously been given the idea that the Republic was basically static and unchanging for thousands of years after the Reformation, with the only marker of change being the unsuspected and invisible rot spreading within, but in actuality the period of the Glorious Iconic Era was a very short portion of the Republic's entire existence.

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