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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Police exist to perpetuate the power of those at the top and to repress the people. It is a lie that they exist to defend civilians. They are a means of taking power away from civilians and making us dependent on the state.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What happens then when something bad happens ? I mean, imagine I get stolen from, beaten, humiliated, etc. I will still need to see someone with some kind of power to do something to make myself whole and hopefully avoid it being repeated on someone else. How do we deal with that without any kind of police ?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I agree. The issue is not the fact that a police exists. The issue is that often, there's no body in charge of investigating it proper, sure you have Internal Affairs (it you don't, as here in Germany), but it can't be part of the police itself. It needs to be an autonomous body that isn't part of police itself and does nothing but investigate them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That was community is about, people that care about you and willingly will defend you and your community with they power.

The existence of police take the power of the community and insolate you, making you feel helpless without them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't live by any family, I don't want to know or talk to people in the community or help them with their problems. I like just using my tax money to pay someone else to handle that. If somebody breaks into Mr. Johnson's car to steal his change, we aren't putting a posse together to find the guy.

And if we were responsible for solving our own crimes, I am going to go from being for gun control to loving the second amendment. Nobody better steal my change, because I value my property more than I value most people. Even my Aldi cart quarters in the cup holder.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Well, police its already trigger happy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The police represent the state’s monopoly over organized violence. If you get rid of the police then what you have is called a failed state and a power vacuum. What happens then? Read about cartel-controlled areas of Mexico, warlord-controlled areas in Central African Republic, jihadist-controlled areas of Nigeria or Syria, or criminal gang-controlled areas in Haiti for examples.

Don’t get me wrong. The police in the US are quite bad. But things could be so much worse. I’m talking about guys driving around in pickup trucks with machine guns mounted on the backs, firing indiscriminately into crowds of people and homes and public places. Mass kidnappings, massacres, rape as a weapon of war. This is ugly, horrific stuff.