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[–] [email protected] 172 points 1 year ago (58 children)

If all electric cars are just going to be subscription bullshit, I'm sorry, I won't be driving electric.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It won’t just be electric cars, it’ll be all new model cars from manufacturing companies. At least until ICE is phased out.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

More like, until the Chinese weasel their way into the US market with cheaper-than-used cars to undercut the legacy auto makers. 10 years or so, it'll happen. And the big 3 will be begging for bailouts again. That is unless they smarten up and remember what made Ford what it is today.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

remember what made Ford what it is today.

American can-do spirit, worker's rights, and throbbing fuckloads of antisemitism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

FORD

For

Old

Racist

Dudes

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see that happening. The US puts large tariffs on imported cars to stifle competition. That's why if you look at Japanese cars in Japan or German cars in Germany they're often much cheaper and more powerful than their American counterparts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

German cars in Germany

German cars in Europe also seems to last pretty decently where as American-made German cars apparently keep falling apart after 5 years lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They're already doing that in some parts of the world. Then when they get sizeable market share, they emulated what the previous car makers do. It's just not an improvement. It's more of the same, only the manufacturer is different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You know what Ford stands for, don't ya? It stands for 'Fix it again, Tony' hehehe.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah. GM's subscription nonsense is for their ice cars too. BMW's aborted seat heater thing was too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Cory Doctorow has written a great article about this phenomenon a few days ago: https://pluralistic.net/2023/07/24/rent-to-pwn/#kitt-is-a-demon

Basically we move back to a feudalism world where you don't own anything anymore and you have to pay recurring rents. And as you don't own it they can fuck you over by increasing rents or disable features when you can't pay.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is why I keep an oldish diesel car with no extra electronic features in my garage. No weird features, and can still run even without a battery.

Although, I think the reason I kept the car is because of my paranoia of an EMP event frying electronics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's true. I wonder if the market for older cars has been going up yet.

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