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My daughter is 14, but I'm sure answers for kids younger or older can apply.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

So, do what you need to do for your family. But I'll say this. I spent time looking into this last go round because I knew Biden was a temporary reprieve. I'm the parent of a trans kid, we did not leave the country for several reasons.

The entire western world is experiencing this dramatic rise in fascism. There's no guarantee that you will actually avoid this long term.

Many countries (especially the UK) have draconian immigration rules, see above note about fascism.

We ultimately decided to move to a blue state, from a red one, primarily for safety reasons, and made it happen over a couple years. We are far happier in this situation and are now able to help extract other loved ones from similar situations.

Again, do what you need to do for yours and your family's safety, but you're in for a tough go of it regardless of what you choose.

ETA: I went as far as interviewing for some jobs in Canada after building my immigration profile and starting the job search in NZ.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The UK is eliminating conversion therapy. The U.S. still has it and Trump has a good chance of forcing people into it.

I'm a dual citizen, I have a queer daughter. I think it's worth taking advantage of that since my wife and I wouldn't forgive ourselves if she got taken from us.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Somehow,.I forgot that "conversion therapy" is anti-gay cult torture-y stuff.

For a bit, I was thinking it was therapy for people who wanted to transition. Because I forgot the word transition and thought it was "convert".

I know this is meaningless, but I felt like sharing. Lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

I wish we could all forget what it means.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's a very different calculation then! I can't say I'd do it differently in your shoes. Godspeed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This seems reasonable. I don't feel like Canada necessarily in a less precarious place than (e.g.) California.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Canadians feel the same.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

Immigration rules are not an issue. I have dual citizenship. Thanks though.