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Democrats Blow Their Chance to Block Trump’s Resurgence (theintercept.com)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

blame Harris. The voters told her they would stay home if she didn't denounce genocide. She continued to ignore them and support genocide, so voters stayed home. The voters literally told her what to do to win and she didn't do it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, now those voters have genocide in Gaza and a new one in Ukraine, plus the people who are dying because they can't get medical abortions.

Great job.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, if a politician sees the polls that say "Don't back genocide" and still pledges to back genocide to pander to the mythical moderate conservative, why are people still obligated to vote for them? Because they're the lesser of two evils? Clearly they don't give a flying fuck what their constituents want.

When they chided "who else are you going to vote for?" In 2016, they got a resoundingly clear answer: "Nobody." But it's supposed to be different now? The Democrats need to step off the stage and progressives need to step up, because it's obvious they can't win elections on being Republican Lite.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

So, now we're looking at genocides in Gaza and Ukraine and the possibility of mass arrests in America.

Congratulations.

If people die because of your moral stand, it's not really that moral.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

First off, I voted for Harris, so you can put your "moral stand" nonsense away; I know damn well how important this shit is. Second, the genocide in Palestine was happening either way and I've spent time and money before and after the election on causes to help Palestinians, because that's way more effective than one measly vote. Can you say the same?

Maybe direct this vitriol to your representatives instead of the people in this community?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

First off, I voted for Harris,

Maybe lead with that next time?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

why are people still obligated to vote for them?

because now you have a “blank check” for expanded genocide. congrats. that was a fucking masterful plan

there were 2 choices… you don’t get a 3rd choice - you can argue it was a choice for the future, but this round anyone who didn’t vote is partly responsible for the additional lives that will be lost, the rights curtailed, and the erosion of your due process

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, there were two choices, and it might shock you to learn I voted for Harris, just like I voted for Clinton back in 2016. I've been pushing people to the polls ever since, I've done walk-and-knocks, I've gone to town halls. How do you think I know people are disgusted with Democrats?

Democrats continuously fail to establish rapport with their voter base because they're consumed with the idea of 'reaching across the aisle,' and they're reaching across into fascism. Is it any fucking wonder, then, that they can't get votes? I guarantee less than one percent of Conservative voters changed their mind on Kamala because she promised to install Republicans in her cabinet. Democrats are trying to be the diet coke to Republican coke, and guess what? Coke drinkers don't drink diet coke when coke is on the fucking menu, quelle fucking suprise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

That's nice dear, but there is always a third choice.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

The media literally told the voters what to do if they didn't want whatever new law enforcement Trump invents kicking down their door to take them away, and they didn't do it.

There's some blame to apportion on a few different sides.

"It is Nixon himself who represents that dark, venal and incurably violent side of the American character that almost every country in the world has learned to fear and despise. Our Barbie-doll president, with his Barbie-doll wife and his boxful of Barbie-doll children is also America's answer to the monstrous Mr. Hyde. He speaks for the Werewolf in us; the bully, the predatory shyster who turns into something unspeakable, full of claws and bleeding string-warts on nights when the moon comes too close… "

"If the current polls are reliable... Nixon will be re-elected by a huge majority of Americans who feel he is not only more honest and more trustworthy than George McGovern, but also more likely to end the war in Vietnam. The polls also indicate that Nixon will get a comfortable majority of the Youth Vote. And that he might carry all fifty states... This may be the year when we finally come face to face with ourselves; finally just lay back and say it — that we are really just a nation of 220 million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns, and no qualms at all about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable. The tragedy of all this is that George McGovern, for all his mistakes... understands what a fantastic monument to all the best instincts of the human race this country might have been, if we could have kept it out of the hands of greedy little hustlers like Richard Nixon. McGovern made some stupid mistakes, but in context they seem almost frivolous compared to the things Richard Nixon does every day of his life, on purpose."

-Hunter S. Thompson, 1972

And that was Nixon. Trump is infinitely darker, more twisted and dangerous.