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[–] [email protected] 172 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

Pour one out for America and Ukraine, and the Middle East in general. And Taiwan.

Europe and Asia, you guys better get your shit together, we might be out of this one permanently. Or we might have a very long recovery time spanning decades. Such fucking bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I know Americans get upset when I say this to them but honestly, I think it's the time the United States broke up, it's too big, it's too powerful, and as soon as someone like him gets in charge everything goes to shit.

If the United States was smaller it wouldn't matter as much if a random dictator got in charge of a small bit of it.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

As an American, I'm in agreement with that in concept. Partition would be a harrowing process though, as people scramble to go where they feel they belong. I'm not sure such a process could happen without another civil war.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Czechs and Slovaks managed to do it in a civilised manner only 30 years ago, so it's not impossible.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

American are known to be very civilised and smart

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago

You're either being sarcastic or you don't live in the U.S. I'm currently living in Louisiana, and I'm surrounded by racist idiots.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

What’s their landmass in comparison to the US?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I was saying this the last time around. America is too big and the parties are too polarized, the federal government can't fairly represent all of its constituents at once. At any given time, half of the population is being underrepresented.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Well that's a good point as well it really doesn't help that the Americans have decided to turn their politics into something so tribal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

That's more practical than just reforming the election system, apparently. Ugh.

Oldschool Republicans may have a point here too, perhaps less federal power is better.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

Indeed. This election was won by Vladimir Putin.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Europe and Asia, you guys better get your shit together

Yes, it's now or never.

Who am I kidding, we won't do anything, of course. Everyone will huddle in his corner.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

In Europe particularly the big problem will be Turkey and Italy as usual.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

For the sake of my mental health I'm currently trying to gaslight myself into thinking that Trump being president isn't bad. But the truth is there is no realistic way the country is coming back from this. Not in my lifetime at least.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

The only hope is that he's so far gone mentally already that he ends up mostly doddering around the oval office. The problem is he's already surrounded himself with the most vile people who will have no problem doing terrible things in his name.

Maybe he'll die and JD Vance will magically regain a conscience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe he’ll die and JD Vance will magically regain a conscience.

God the only hope is that JD doesn't become president, in name or practice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

At least JD is an unknown quantity with some oddly left leaning positions in his past. We know what we're getting with Trump and it's terrible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Yes, but he's also claimed support for industry-level collective bargaining like Europe has. He's probably lying, but who knows.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

That's a feature for these people not a bug, he'll be a hollow shell for his cabinet to pass what they want to pass

[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, no. Our European society is in decline.

Recently we had some floodings on Valencia. We are aiming for 300 dead... In a modern society 300 dead because of a flooding, the same dead tool as in 1957 when the same area flooded. Our society is definitely failing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Just read an article in the guardian by a climate scientist lamenting how many times he and his colleagues presented flood risk data to city officials in Valencia but time and time again they ignored them. Very sad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, we have millions of imm.... uh, enemies to kill at home before going abroad.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Recovery time? Getting our shit together? Europe and Asia won't survive the climate collapse either. I don't know why you people talk like this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, there is no coming back from this one

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 hours ago

And Taiwan.

If there's one thing Ds and Rs agree on, it's the need to start a war with China