▲ 2201 ▼ Americans: Never, EVER question again how Hitler came to power in 1933 Germany (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by Treczoks@lemmy.world to c/leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world 1027 comments fedilink hide all child comments Because you now did it to yourself.
[–] dellish@lemmy.world 725 points 2 years ago (98 children) You dumb, dumb motherfuckers. Regards, the rest of the world. permalink fedilink source hideshow 98 child comments replies: [–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 230 points 2 years ago (49 children) They'd be upset if they could read. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 49 child comments replies: [–] cdf12345@lemm.ee 170 points 2 years ago (48 children) Most of us can, and are also stunned by the dunbass other half of the population permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 48 child comments replies: [–] Tagger@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (2 children) *Slightly less than half most of us can, and are stunned by the dumbass other half of the population FTFY permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wrench@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago Roughly 1/3 of the voting age population. About 1/3rd of the voting age population do not vote. We're outnumbered 2:1 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] Bonifratz@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago ...as was the case in 1933 Germany... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Sure but a lot didn’t care. Less voters this time Trump votes stayed steady so. Lots of people who voted Biden where ok with Trump getting in. permalink fedilink source parent [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (23 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (19 children) It's not though. Voting is not mandatory and voter turnout in the US hovers only around 35-40% of the eligible population, on the high side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (14 children) The non-voters are also dumb. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments load more comments (14 replies) [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Once you take into account registered voters versus eligible citizens, and the turnout of registered voters... It actually comes out to more like 25% of eligible citizens actually voting, and that's on the high side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nope, 1/3 of the population never votes. That's around 100 million people. And neither party has close to 50% of the US population, so it doesn't come down to a little more than half no matter who wins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the people that don’t vote don’t matter cause they don’t care either way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (19 replies) [–] Terdukken@lemmy.world 86 points 2 years ago (10 children) American here. Fuuuuc.... Not what most of us wanted here on the West Coast. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (5 children) Yeah, wtf is in the water out east? Oh right, the lead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 23 points 2 years ago (4 children) The southeast. The northeast did just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) This map shows a whole lot of fucking up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) You will get zero argument from me. This is a disgrace. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago I've been trying to fall asleep for, uh, well the first dose of nyquil just wore off. This is going to be a fun night. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago PA can fuck all the way off and not just cause I’m a Bruins fan permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wahots@pawb.social 20 points 2 years ago We fought hard and carried the team as best we could. We probably won't be eating as much curb as some states, but fucking frustrating as hell that some Americans can't get their shit together for 12 goddamn minutes. It's like half the country forgot how bad 2020 was, not to mention the insane shit that went down day in and day out for years. I hope, HOPE that we have the privilege of voting in four years, and that by some miracle, the president, Senate and house and SC (all projected to be Republican) somehow forget to fuck with our election system. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago I almost wish we could just be our own country. Washington, Oregon, and California are already very much aligned with one another. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you considered... secession? 😉 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] eupraxia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 2 years ago (14 children) Hi, this sentiment from non-americans pisses me off and it's okay, but I feel it's important to explain why so I'm copying another comment I made today. Goodness knows some of us are trying our best. I mean keep in mind our country is a democracy in name but systemically props up white supremacists in excess of the real popular opinion. And a media disinformation machine keeps the working class divided against itself, with open support from the wealthiest and owners of the most popular social media platforms. Social media platforms that, let's be honest, are super recent inventions we are not yet capable of engaging with safely. It makes it an uphill battle to try to reach out to people whose necks aren't on the line. And the responsibility to do so falls upon the disenfranchised themselves, who are increasingly saddled with economic and health burdens that might just kill us someday. I get the potshots at Americans, but frankly I don't plan on taking the blame if this goes tits up - many of us did a hell of a lot more than vote to resist fascism. Nothing happened here that isn't happening elsewhere. And I'll fight the notion that citizens at large are the problem. It's a cynical outlook that serves to individualize the responsibility for a systematic disaster. Our country was built to make this possible after all. And I sure as hell know I don't plan on giving up. Kind of morbidly curious about how much of an incompetent clusterfuck Project 2025's implementation will be. Victory or no, fascists are paper tigers and I plan on sticking around to remind them of that fact however I can. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Itisreallyboring@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago Fascists are paper tigers... bold statement. Especially if those paper tigers have access to the biggest military budget on the planet and are backed by an out-of-control police force. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Carighan@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* Victory or no, fascists are paper tigers and I plan on sticking around to remind them of that fact however I can. See, this is the issue. It used to be this way. That until they're actually in power (and I mean have removed the democractic process that could remove them from power again, too), fascists pose big but there's no bite behind the bark. But Jan 6 and Trump's general antics being excused by his cronies in the SC have clearly shown that this is changing. People are emboldened by the fascist rise in all western countries, on top of the generally aggressive atmosphere worldwide as the older generations, unable to face their own misgivings and the shit they caused to pile up, would rather vote for fascism and "blaming Them™️" than accept that maybe it's high time we accept some really rough times to turn the ship around. Fully knowing that none of them will live long enough to actually suffer the outcome of their actions. Even my dad started voting AfD. His reason being "It's time something changes!". He's just unhappy with the status quo, even if you fully tell him that he, personally, is among those suffering under the AfD and they're open about wanting to make things worse for him. It's impossible to reason with these people, as them wanting to be reasoned with would mean they'd have to accept that between climate change and the secondary monumental tasks of trying to handle that which are all inherently global super-issues, too, their generation only had it good in their days because they were living on credit. But does he truly care? No of course not. He's old. He can be contrarian and vote "against the establishment", and that this fucks everything up more or less permanently isn't a problem for him since he'll be long dead by the time the issues that could have been prevented truly come into force. Much as we're already seeing some issues such as curtailed bodily autonomy for women, increase in violent climes, and of course climate disasters. Things have changed. People fully do shit now simply because their age and general position in society shields them from the outcome, and they just want to be "against". And they can openly flaunt this, so crime etc is on the rise. Big time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bloodyhog@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (6 children) Keep calm and carry on, mate. We here in Britain finally managed to get rid of the blonde fella who was wrecking our country, you can also do it. The new ones may not be much of an improvement, but I know one thing for sure - a decent citizen of any nation should never accept as their leader such a corrupted and crooked in so many ways person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (5 children) We traded an orange man for a white man and even that seemed to enrage the conservatives, a black woman? No chance. Proud to be an American here 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Bloodyhog@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (4 children) Yeah, but still. How, how could anyone vote for this ekstra speshial man? And, more importantly, how can someone like me stay sane knowing that such morally corrupt candidates are winning votes, and not only in the US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago I legitimately do not understand why. The evidence is clear and there’s no attempt to hide the racism and xenophobia, I guess I just overestimated how my country feels about fascists. Thought we sorted this shit in the 40’s but I guess we’re doing the fourth Reich instead. I don’t want to live on this planet anymore 👍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you find answers to either of those, please let me know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (5 replies) [+] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago The word you’re looking for is Nazi. We just repeated the Madison Square Garden rally and here we goooo permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Also the US: Look at those foreign countries, bad guys because of what their government is doing regardless of whether it's what their people want. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AsheHole@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* It kills me ...I got into it with a colleague this morning while discussing this very topic. When I brought up that whatever the current trending "bad guy" is, we will always see an increase in hate crimes against that demographic in our own country. When I used the increased attacks on anyone appearing to be slightly middle eastern after 9/11 as an example she angrily spat out that "they've killed thousands of us." And I had to remind her that she was literally giving an example of what we were discussing. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (4 replies) [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (2 children) As if the rest of the world wasn't on the same slippery slope... Things are looking glum all over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Carighan@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago Yeah but Americans not being ~56% the dumb fuckwits they seemingly are would have sent a good positive signal to the rest. Now the opposite happens and the fascists everywhere will feel strongly encouraged, on top of strong US-support for autocratic Russia and big support for completely depopulating Gaza (after all, Trump is a big fan of Neta "finishing the job" in his own words). permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (9 replies)
[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 230 points 2 years ago (49 children) They'd be upset if they could read. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 49 child comments replies: [–] cdf12345@lemm.ee 170 points 2 years ago (48 children) Most of us can, and are also stunned by the dunbass other half of the population permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 48 child comments replies: [–] Tagger@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (2 children) *Slightly less than half most of us can, and are stunned by the dumbass other half of the population FTFY permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wrench@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago Roughly 1/3 of the voting age population. About 1/3rd of the voting age population do not vote. We're outnumbered 2:1 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] Bonifratz@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago ...as was the case in 1933 Germany... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Sure but a lot didn’t care. Less voters this time Trump votes stayed steady so. Lots of people who voted Biden where ok with Trump getting in. permalink fedilink source parent [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (23 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (19 children) It's not though. Voting is not mandatory and voter turnout in the US hovers only around 35-40% of the eligible population, on the high side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (14 children) The non-voters are also dumb. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments load more comments (14 replies) [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Once you take into account registered voters versus eligible citizens, and the turnout of registered voters... It actually comes out to more like 25% of eligible citizens actually voting, and that's on the high side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nope, 1/3 of the population never votes. That's around 100 million people. And neither party has close to 50% of the US population, so it doesn't come down to a little more than half no matter who wins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the people that don’t vote don’t matter cause they don’t care either way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (19 replies)
[–] cdf12345@lemm.ee 170 points 2 years ago (48 children) Most of us can, and are also stunned by the dunbass other half of the population permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 48 child comments replies: [–] Tagger@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (2 children) *Slightly less than half most of us can, and are stunned by the dumbass other half of the population FTFY permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wrench@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago Roughly 1/3 of the voting age population. About 1/3rd of the voting age population do not vote. We're outnumbered 2:1 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] Bonifratz@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago ...as was the case in 1933 Germany... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Sure but a lot didn’t care. Less voters this time Trump votes stayed steady so. Lots of people who voted Biden where ok with Trump getting in. permalink fedilink source parent [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (23 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (19 children) It's not though. Voting is not mandatory and voter turnout in the US hovers only around 35-40% of the eligible population, on the high side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (14 children) The non-voters are also dumb. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments load more comments (14 replies) [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Once you take into account registered voters versus eligible citizens, and the turnout of registered voters... It actually comes out to more like 25% of eligible citizens actually voting, and that's on the high side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nope, 1/3 of the population never votes. That's around 100 million people. And neither party has close to 50% of the US population, so it doesn't come down to a little more than half no matter who wins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the people that don’t vote don’t matter cause they don’t care either way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (19 replies)
[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (2 children) *Slightly less than half most of us can, and are stunned by the dumbass other half of the population FTFY permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wrench@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago Roughly 1/3 of the voting age population. About 1/3rd of the voting age population do not vote. We're outnumbered 2:1 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago Roughly 1/3 of the voting age population. About 1/3rd of the voting age population do not vote. We're outnumbered 2:1 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bonifratz@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago ...as was the case in 1933 Germany... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago Sure but a lot didn’t care. Less voters this time Trump votes stayed steady so. Lots of people who voted Biden where ok with Trump getting in. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (23 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (19 children) It's not though. Voting is not mandatory and voter turnout in the US hovers only around 35-40% of the eligible population, on the high side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (14 children) The non-voters are also dumb. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments load more comments (14 replies) [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Once you take into account registered voters versus eligible citizens, and the turnout of registered voters... It actually comes out to more like 25% of eligible citizens actually voting, and that's on the high side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nope, 1/3 of the population never votes. That's around 100 million people. And neither party has close to 50% of the US population, so it doesn't come down to a little more than half no matter who wins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the people that don’t vote don’t matter cause they don’t care either way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (19 children) It's not though. Voting is not mandatory and voter turnout in the US hovers only around 35-40% of the eligible population, on the high side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (14 children) The non-voters are also dumb. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments load more comments (14 replies) [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Once you take into account registered voters versus eligible citizens, and the turnout of registered voters... It actually comes out to more like 25% of eligible citizens actually voting, and that's on the high side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (14 children) The non-voters are also dumb. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments load more comments (14 replies)
[+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Once you take into account registered voters versus eligible citizens, and the turnout of registered voters... It actually comes out to more like 25% of eligible citizens actually voting, and that's on the high side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) Once you take into account registered voters versus eligible citizens, and the turnout of registered voters... It actually comes out to more like 25% of eligible citizens actually voting, and that's on the high side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Nope, 1/3 of the population never votes. That's around 100 million people. And neither party has close to 50% of the US population, so it doesn't come down to a little more than half no matter who wins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the people that don’t vote don’t matter cause they don’t care either way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the people that don’t vote don’t matter cause they don’t care either way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Terdukken@lemmy.world 86 points 2 years ago (10 children) American here. Fuuuuc.... Not what most of us wanted here on the West Coast. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (5 children) Yeah, wtf is in the water out east? Oh right, the lead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 23 points 2 years ago (4 children) The southeast. The northeast did just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) This map shows a whole lot of fucking up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) You will get zero argument from me. This is a disgrace. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago I've been trying to fall asleep for, uh, well the first dose of nyquil just wore off. This is going to be a fun night. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago PA can fuck all the way off and not just cause I’m a Bruins fan permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wahots@pawb.social 20 points 2 years ago We fought hard and carried the team as best we could. We probably won't be eating as much curb as some states, but fucking frustrating as hell that some Americans can't get their shit together for 12 goddamn minutes. It's like half the country forgot how bad 2020 was, not to mention the insane shit that went down day in and day out for years. I hope, HOPE that we have the privilege of voting in four years, and that by some miracle, the president, Senate and house and SC (all projected to be Republican) somehow forget to fuck with our election system. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago I almost wish we could just be our own country. Washington, Oregon, and California are already very much aligned with one another. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you considered... secession? 😉 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (5 children) Yeah, wtf is in the water out east? Oh right, the lead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 23 points 2 years ago (4 children) The southeast. The northeast did just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) This map shows a whole lot of fucking up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) You will get zero argument from me. This is a disgrace. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago I've been trying to fall asleep for, uh, well the first dose of nyquil just wore off. This is going to be a fun night. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago PA can fuck all the way off and not just cause I’m a Bruins fan permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 23 points 2 years ago (4 children) The southeast. The northeast did just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) This map shows a whole lot of fucking up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) You will get zero argument from me. This is a disgrace. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago I've been trying to fall asleep for, uh, well the first dose of nyquil just wore off. This is going to be a fun night. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago PA can fuck all the way off and not just cause I’m a Bruins fan permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) This map shows a whole lot of fucking up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) You will get zero argument from me. This is a disgrace. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago I've been trying to fall asleep for, uh, well the first dose of nyquil just wore off. This is going to be a fun night. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) You will get zero argument from me. This is a disgrace. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago I've been trying to fall asleep for, uh, well the first dose of nyquil just wore off. This is going to be a fun night. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago I've been trying to fall asleep for, uh, well the first dose of nyquil just wore off. This is going to be a fun night. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago PA can fuck all the way off and not just cause I’m a Bruins fan permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wahots@pawb.social 20 points 2 years ago We fought hard and carried the team as best we could. We probably won't be eating as much curb as some states, but fucking frustrating as hell that some Americans can't get their shit together for 12 goddamn minutes. It's like half the country forgot how bad 2020 was, not to mention the insane shit that went down day in and day out for years. I hope, HOPE that we have the privilege of voting in four years, and that by some miracle, the president, Senate and house and SC (all projected to be Republican) somehow forget to fuck with our election system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 2 years ago I almost wish we could just be our own country. Washington, Oregon, and California are already very much aligned with one another. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you considered... secession? 😉 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] eupraxia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 2 years ago (14 children) Hi, this sentiment from non-americans pisses me off and it's okay, but I feel it's important to explain why so I'm copying another comment I made today. Goodness knows some of us are trying our best. I mean keep in mind our country is a democracy in name but systemically props up white supremacists in excess of the real popular opinion. And a media disinformation machine keeps the working class divided against itself, with open support from the wealthiest and owners of the most popular social media platforms. Social media platforms that, let's be honest, are super recent inventions we are not yet capable of engaging with safely. It makes it an uphill battle to try to reach out to people whose necks aren't on the line. And the responsibility to do so falls upon the disenfranchised themselves, who are increasingly saddled with economic and health burdens that might just kill us someday. I get the potshots at Americans, but frankly I don't plan on taking the blame if this goes tits up - many of us did a hell of a lot more than vote to resist fascism. Nothing happened here that isn't happening elsewhere. And I'll fight the notion that citizens at large are the problem. It's a cynical outlook that serves to individualize the responsibility for a systematic disaster. Our country was built to make this possible after all. And I sure as hell know I don't plan on giving up. Kind of morbidly curious about how much of an incompetent clusterfuck Project 2025's implementation will be. Victory or no, fascists are paper tigers and I plan on sticking around to remind them of that fact however I can. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Itisreallyboring@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago Fascists are paper tigers... bold statement. Especially if those paper tigers have access to the biggest military budget on the planet and are backed by an out-of-control police force. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Carighan@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* Victory or no, fascists are paper tigers and I plan on sticking around to remind them of that fact however I can. See, this is the issue. It used to be this way. That until they're actually in power (and I mean have removed the democractic process that could remove them from power again, too), fascists pose big but there's no bite behind the bark. But Jan 6 and Trump's general antics being excused by his cronies in the SC have clearly shown that this is changing. People are emboldened by the fascist rise in all western countries, on top of the generally aggressive atmosphere worldwide as the older generations, unable to face their own misgivings and the shit they caused to pile up, would rather vote for fascism and "blaming Them™️" than accept that maybe it's high time we accept some really rough times to turn the ship around. Fully knowing that none of them will live long enough to actually suffer the outcome of their actions. Even my dad started voting AfD. His reason being "It's time something changes!". He's just unhappy with the status quo, even if you fully tell him that he, personally, is among those suffering under the AfD and they're open about wanting to make things worse for him. It's impossible to reason with these people, as them wanting to be reasoned with would mean they'd have to accept that between climate change and the secondary monumental tasks of trying to handle that which are all inherently global super-issues, too, their generation only had it good in their days because they were living on credit. But does he truly care? No of course not. He's old. He can be contrarian and vote "against the establishment", and that this fucks everything up more or less permanently isn't a problem for him since he'll be long dead by the time the issues that could have been prevented truly come into force. Much as we're already seeing some issues such as curtailed bodily autonomy for women, increase in violent climes, and of course climate disasters. Things have changed. People fully do shit now simply because their age and general position in society shields them from the outcome, and they just want to be "against". And they can openly flaunt this, so crime etc is on the rise. Big time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bloodyhog@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (6 children) Keep calm and carry on, mate. We here in Britain finally managed to get rid of the blonde fella who was wrecking our country, you can also do it. The new ones may not be much of an improvement, but I know one thing for sure - a decent citizen of any nation should never accept as their leader such a corrupted and crooked in so many ways person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (5 children) We traded an orange man for a white man and even that seemed to enrage the conservatives, a black woman? No chance. Proud to be an American here 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Bloodyhog@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (4 children) Yeah, but still. How, how could anyone vote for this ekstra speshial man? And, more importantly, how can someone like me stay sane knowing that such morally corrupt candidates are winning votes, and not only in the US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago I legitimately do not understand why. The evidence is clear and there’s no attempt to hide the racism and xenophobia, I guess I just overestimated how my country feels about fascists. Thought we sorted this shit in the 40’s but I guess we’re doing the fourth Reich instead. I don’t want to live on this planet anymore 👍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you find answers to either of those, please let me know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (5 replies)
[–] Itisreallyboring@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago Fascists are paper tigers... bold statement. Especially if those paper tigers have access to the biggest military budget on the planet and are backed by an out-of-control police force. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* Victory or no, fascists are paper tigers and I plan on sticking around to remind them of that fact however I can. See, this is the issue. It used to be this way. That until they're actually in power (and I mean have removed the democractic process that could remove them from power again, too), fascists pose big but there's no bite behind the bark. But Jan 6 and Trump's general antics being excused by his cronies in the SC have clearly shown that this is changing. People are emboldened by the fascist rise in all western countries, on top of the generally aggressive atmosphere worldwide as the older generations, unable to face their own misgivings and the shit they caused to pile up, would rather vote for fascism and "blaming Them™️" than accept that maybe it's high time we accept some really rough times to turn the ship around. Fully knowing that none of them will live long enough to actually suffer the outcome of their actions. Even my dad started voting AfD. His reason being "It's time something changes!". He's just unhappy with the status quo, even if you fully tell him that he, personally, is among those suffering under the AfD and they're open about wanting to make things worse for him. It's impossible to reason with these people, as them wanting to be reasoned with would mean they'd have to accept that between climate change and the secondary monumental tasks of trying to handle that which are all inherently global super-issues, too, their generation only had it good in their days because they were living on credit. But does he truly care? No of course not. He's old. He can be contrarian and vote "against the establishment", and that this fucks everything up more or less permanently isn't a problem for him since he'll be long dead by the time the issues that could have been prevented truly come into force. Much as we're already seeing some issues such as curtailed bodily autonomy for women, increase in violent climes, and of course climate disasters. Things have changed. People fully do shit now simply because their age and general position in society shields them from the outcome, and they just want to be "against". And they can openly flaunt this, so crime etc is on the rise. Big time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bloodyhog@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (6 children) Keep calm and carry on, mate. We here in Britain finally managed to get rid of the blonde fella who was wrecking our country, you can also do it. The new ones may not be much of an improvement, but I know one thing for sure - a decent citizen of any nation should never accept as their leader such a corrupted and crooked in so many ways person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (5 children) We traded an orange man for a white man and even that seemed to enrage the conservatives, a black woman? No chance. Proud to be an American here 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Bloodyhog@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (4 children) Yeah, but still. How, how could anyone vote for this ekstra speshial man? And, more importantly, how can someone like me stay sane knowing that such morally corrupt candidates are winning votes, and not only in the US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago I legitimately do not understand why. The evidence is clear and there’s no attempt to hide the racism and xenophobia, I guess I just overestimated how my country feels about fascists. Thought we sorted this shit in the 40’s but I guess we’re doing the fourth Reich instead. I don’t want to live on this planet anymore 👍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you find answers to either of those, please let me know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (5 children) We traded an orange man for a white man and even that seemed to enrage the conservatives, a black woman? No chance. Proud to be an American here 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Bloodyhog@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (4 children) Yeah, but still. How, how could anyone vote for this ekstra speshial man? And, more importantly, how can someone like me stay sane knowing that such morally corrupt candidates are winning votes, and not only in the US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago I legitimately do not understand why. The evidence is clear and there’s no attempt to hide the racism and xenophobia, I guess I just overestimated how my country feels about fascists. Thought we sorted this shit in the 40’s but I guess we’re doing the fourth Reich instead. I don’t want to live on this planet anymore 👍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you find answers to either of those, please let me know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Bloodyhog@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (4 children) Yeah, but still. How, how could anyone vote for this ekstra speshial man? And, more importantly, how can someone like me stay sane knowing that such morally corrupt candidates are winning votes, and not only in the US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago I legitimately do not understand why. The evidence is clear and there’s no attempt to hide the racism and xenophobia, I guess I just overestimated how my country feels about fascists. Thought we sorted this shit in the 40’s but I guess we’re doing the fourth Reich instead. I don’t want to live on this planet anymore 👍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you find answers to either of those, please let me know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago I legitimately do not understand why. The evidence is clear and there’s no attempt to hide the racism and xenophobia, I guess I just overestimated how my country feels about fascists. Thought we sorted this shit in the 40’s but I guess we’re doing the fourth Reich instead. I don’t want to live on this planet anymore 👍 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you find answers to either of those, please let me know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[+] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago The word you’re looking for is Nazi. We just repeated the Madison Square Garden rally and here we goooo permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Also the US: Look at those foreign countries, bad guys because of what their government is doing regardless of whether it's what their people want. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AsheHole@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* It kills me ...I got into it with a colleague this morning while discussing this very topic. When I brought up that whatever the current trending "bad guy" is, we will always see an increase in hate crimes against that demographic in our own country. When I used the increased attacks on anyone appearing to be slightly middle eastern after 9/11 as an example she angrily spat out that "they've killed thousands of us." And I had to remind her that she was literally giving an example of what we were discussing. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (4 replies)
[+] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago The word you’re looking for is Nazi. We just repeated the Madison Square Garden rally and here we goooo permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago The word you’re looking for is Nazi. We just repeated the Madison Square Garden rally and here we goooo permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Also the US: Look at those foreign countries, bad guys because of what their government is doing regardless of whether it's what their people want. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AsheHole@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* It kills me ...I got into it with a colleague this morning while discussing this very topic. When I brought up that whatever the current trending "bad guy" is, we will always see an increase in hate crimes against that demographic in our own country. When I used the increased attacks on anyone appearing to be slightly middle eastern after 9/11 as an example she angrily spat out that "they've killed thousands of us." And I had to remind her that she was literally giving an example of what we were discussing. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] AsheHole@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* It kills me ...I got into it with a colleague this morning while discussing this very topic. When I brought up that whatever the current trending "bad guy" is, we will always see an increase in hate crimes against that demographic in our own country. When I used the increased attacks on anyone appearing to be slightly middle eastern after 9/11 as an example she angrily spat out that "they've killed thousands of us." And I had to remind her that she was literally giving an example of what we were discussing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (2 children) As if the rest of the world wasn't on the same slippery slope... Things are looking glum all over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Carighan@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago Yeah but Americans not being ~56% the dumb fuckwits they seemingly are would have sent a good positive signal to the rest. Now the opposite happens and the fascists everywhere will feel strongly encouraged, on top of strong US-support for autocratic Russia and big support for completely depopulating Gaza (after all, Trump is a big fan of Neta "finishing the job" in his own words). permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago Yeah but Americans not being ~56% the dumb fuckwits they seemingly are would have sent a good positive signal to the rest. Now the opposite happens and the fascists everywhere will feel strongly encouraged, on top of strong US-support for autocratic Russia and big support for completely depopulating Gaza (after all, Trump is a big fan of Neta "finishing the job" in his own words). permalink fedilink source parent