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I'm thinking of switching from gel to injections. If anyone here has experience with that, how is your experience?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the DIY community exists and uses EUn regularly, subq and im have had a proven difference with it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

cool, TIL, I've previously been familiar with enanthate being used - I wonder where the raw material comes from for EUn, maybe Chinese manufacturers like for EEn.

Are the differences in subq and IM with EUn from reports in the DIY community? I would imagine it's quite hard to track that considering it takes what, 90 days before EUn reaches steady state?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

reports from those who use EUn, through blood testing mostly

dont really recommend using it because its complicated and we dont know much about it

as for 90 days thing,, yknow theres a lot of trans creatures who have been on hrt for years right? x3

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

My point about 90 days is that it's difficult to easily compare differences in IM and subq directly - even if were planning to compare them with blood testing. Even with e. valerate injections I find my blood levels can be quite variable with no other changes - part of that is due to the way syringes are manufactured and the resulting variation in the actual dose being delivered. I also swear sometimes the oil doesn't depot the same when there is more tissue trauma or if I nick a blood supply. These speculations would be really hard to isolate with a relatively fast-metabolizing ester like valerate, so an accurate comparison between subq and IM would be difficult to do for an ester like EUn which requires much, much longer time periods between changes before being able to test.

Anyway, I'm suspicious about claims that EUn is uniquely different as an ester between subq and IM, but as usual I think the only way to clarify things is to get empirical evidence, which won't be forthcoming anytime soon, esp. for an ester that isn't manufactured or used outside of a minority within DIY communities.

Either way, thank you so much for calling it out and bringing my attention to this - I'm interested in learning more if you have links to anything about this.