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If you want to post a non-credible take, it must be from a "credible" source (news article, politician, or military leader) and must have a comment laying out exactly why it's non-credible. Low-hanging fruit such as random Twitter and YouTube comments belong in the Matrix chat.
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Classified ‘western’ information is off limits regardless of how "open source" and "easy to find" it is.
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If you use somebody's art in your post or as your post, the OP must provide a direct link to the art's source in the comment section, or a good reason why this was not possible (such as the artist deleting their account). The source should be a place that the artist themselves uploaded the art. A booru is not a source. A watermark is not a source.
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Blahaj zone admin here. There's quite a bit of confusion and misunderstanding in this thread.
No one is "selectively removing NCD content" or anything close to it.
What happened is that 6 months ago, CDRMITTENS was instance banned from lemmy.blahaj.zone over an anti Palestinian meme they posted. You can see the mod log for that here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?postId=11419938. This meme conflated Hamas and Palestinians in general, and basically blamed Palestinians for their own genocide. Notably, the post also broke NCD rules 2 and 5, but wasn't removed by NCD mods.
As a result of CDRMITTENS being instance banned, none of their content reaches lemmy.blahaj.zone anymore. You can see that for yourself here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/u/[email protected], which shows that no content from this user has reached blahaj.zone. There was no selective removal or editing of content at play, because none of their content reached blahaj.zone to be able to selectively remove it.
tl;dr - It's just an instance ban, not selective moderation
Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/4336208
Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/11381339
Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/11419938
Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/16644488
Oh and instead of removing the post that violated your rules, you banned the person who submits the most content to NCD
Nuke, not to be a dick, but did you talk to Ada before making this post? Because it sounds like there might be some miscommunication here.
They have the right to remove any content from their server, but I have no intentions of holding any conversations with any admins over what content is allowed here.
No, but talking to the admins might've given you a better idea of why this was going down, especially considering one of the cases is an instance ban, not selective moderation.
He just told you he wants to fight, not to talk. Just ignore them.
The first link isn't removed and the second link references Pepe. The third link is the same link as your first link
Anyone that posts bigotry gets instance banned.
I have no idea about NCD. I don't use it, I have no idea who posts in it, and it doesn't come in to it. Anyone that posts bigotry gets instance banned, and your most active poster, posted bigotry.
... wait, is that really enough to justify removal?
It is when I'd just removed another post by the same user, conflating palestinians and hamas, blaming palestinians for their own genocide
Ah. I thought you meant there was a general rule against Pepe.
Pepe is a red flag. Not enough to ban outright with no other context, but when posted by a user who is posting bigotry elsewhere, it warrants a removal
I understand that point of view, definitely. Just wanted to make sure I didn't need to be checking my meme folders carefully before posting on 196, not that I have many Pepe memes lol.
I'm not associated with anyone in this thread or the situation being discussed. I'm interested how we understand and use cultural signals. Here's some Pepe detail for the similarly curious:
The alt-right got wise to new media in the 2010s. They started meme-washing their hate mongering and trying to normalize coded hate speech in internet culture using Pepe memes and other popular formats. It snowballed and the Pepe meme = Nazi user association is a product of lasting trends from that time. It's similar to clocking someone for wearing straight-laced Doc Martens or khakis and a white polo.
For those in the know one of those items is a small red flag. The wearer could be completely ignorant that these are known dog whistles/identifiers for members of hate groups. If someone is wearing a lot of small red flags then it's less likely the wearer is accidentally serving white supremacist. That's the point of stealing and manufacturing these kinds of symbols though: most people don't know they exist or what they intend to mean so the user can feign ignorance with plausible deniability. They're the inverse of modern progressive advocacy symbols. Wearers can hide in plain sight with just enough Nazi showing that other insiders see them. Pride icons for cowards.
The artist who created Pepe has publicly denounced the character's use as a hate symbol and regressivist propaganda tool. Whether or not a community or individual "liberates" Pepe from the prison CHUDs built is up to them.
For what it's worth: I lean toward liberate most of the time (fight against the thieving bigots) but in this situation, even given a permissive setting, adding "posts Pepe" as a mark against is sensible. It's clear the user is either intentionally pushing hate propaganda or else under enough alt-right influence that their intentions aren't relevant to the evaluation.
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It's great you've got such a strong moral compass and are an authority on bigotry that can recognize it and weed it out, you could have been an insane person high on the miniscule amount of power tending a pile of shitposts, removing humour because of ideology. All of us the Internet really dodged a bullet there.
My brother in Christ, take my hand. You are salty.
From the modlog: " Removed Post Why would the terrorists lie? 😭 reason: Violates server rule #7"
It has since been restored. Your own modlog shows its removal https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog/4573?page=1&actionType=ModRemovePost
Is this real life?
Fixed
lemmy.blahaj.zone doesn't have a "server rule 7". The removal that you're referring to was made by a lemmy.world admin and has nothing to do with blahaj.zone.
Your third link now links to the meme that got CDRMITTENS banned from lemmy.blahaj.zone. This meme breaks your own community rules, and conflates Palestinians with Hamas. It's outright bigotry
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/16644488 and this one?
If you don't see a how an action from a government committing genocide, that injures or kills hundreds of civilians is a problem, then there is probably little point in having this conversation.
After posting this, I will be blocking NCD from blahaj.zone
Clown shit
It might be wise to step away from the computer for a bit. You didn't handle this exchange well.
love you too bb 😘
I'm serious, though. For this whole platform to work, admins and moderators need to be able to discuss their issues in a mature fashion. Ava acted reasonably here, but you remained belligerent and got the community removed from her instance. It didn't have to go down this way.
The community was removed after asking her why she removed the post https://lemmy.world/post/19935466 then got told I'm a genocide apologist. Yeah okay buddy
Oof, there is no genocide on palistinians, neither the quite antisemitic UN nor the international court have deemed the military actions of israel to be genocidal.
South africa still has to produce evidence of their accusations aswell
I’ve been alive for 4 decades.
The genocide didn’t start last year.
It’s been my whole life.
I mean yes, the genocide on jews is ongoing for millenia but there is still no genocide on palestinians. Only genocidal action in recent years was the 7th of october 2023 when hamas terrorists and gaza citizens crossed the border to Israel to murder, rape and kidnap hundreds of israelians with the intention to finish the work of the nazis.
But if hamas (nazi) propaganda is more believeable you should stick to that
Yikes.
There has been a genocide, multiple genocides, on the Jewish people. That’s not in question here.
You pretending that there hasn’t been a genocide on the Palestinian people since before the British colonized then handed the state to become Israel is on you.
Anyways, go fuck yourself.
The palestinians are the current israelians tho and those who claim to be palestinians are arabs from surrounding countries. There were genocides on palestinians, yes, but they were carried out by christians and muslims.
We get it, you’re pro genocide.