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I (21M) live in an Ohio household of hardcore Trumpers who, unfortunately, found out that I voted for Kamala Harris.

My father and brother are fascists. They believe in killing anyone who disagrees with Trumpism. My mother is not violent, but drank basically all the QAnon Kool-Aid and is batshit insane.

I am disabled. My cognitive ability suffers severely if I sit up or stand up for more than a few minutes. I also have another condition that requires me to avoid bending my neck, so I have to keep it straight. I also can't safely lift anything that's heavier than a few pounds, so anything more than that is very risky. I can push and pull fine.

I am also financially-dependent on my mother at the moment.

We moved to a new house recently, and the walls are very thin. That allowed me to overhear a private conversation between my father and brother.

My brother said that he hates Harris supporters so much that he wants a day of retribution where he goes on a violent rampage to kill everyone he knows who supports her, especially gay and transgender people. When my dad asked if that included me, he did not hesitate to say "Sure."

My brother is in peak physical condition. He owns guns and has military training. I had long suspected that he is the biggest potential threat to my life, but gaslighted myself into thinking I was overreacting. Today, he confirmed it.

My brother isn't the type to throw out threats of violence willy-nilly. He has also physically abused me in the past when we were younger and has major anger issues. I believe that I have to take this threat seriously, and that means that I need to evacuate ASAP. I think the most likely day for him to act is on election night or shortly after, which would give me just over a week. But then again, I can't be sure. Maybe he is planning a surprise.

My mother is too unreasonable to take any of this seriously.

I have a few thousand dollars and Democratic relatives from the South who might potentially take me in, though I don't know for sure if they will, since we're not close emotionally. I also don't know if my brother will go out of his way to target them once he notices my absence. He is going to an out-of-state Trump rally this week, so I know that he doesn't have much trouble crossing state lines.

I don't know where my birth certificate and social security card are, other than that my mother has them somewhere. My father is home the entire time and stays in one spot where he can see everything. Even if I knew where they were, there is no way for me to retrieve them without him noticing.

Fuck fascism. I was born to a family of vile abusive sociopaths. It was hell the whole time. I won't miss any of them. Fuck them. They are a disappointment to the rest of my family line. I spent my entire life learning how to become a decent human being in spite of it all and now the fuckers want me dead. FUCK. THEM.

The thing that separates me from the rest of my family is empathy. I refused to hate the people they wanted me to hate. Instead, I listened to their stories and befriended them. I care about everyone, not just straight white Christians. I voted for Harris because I wanted the best for everyone, which means preventing the installation of an authoritarian regime. And for that, I must pay the ultimate price.

I may never get to experience love or deep friendship, but no matter how this all ends, I vow to spend the rest of my days pouring out as much love and joy as I can out to every last ally I meet.

Any advice would be helpful. I don't want to wait, but I also can't do this without some kind of plan. I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing, so any input is appreciated.

Thank you.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Have you seen Australias immigration policy? If hes got a disability, hes probably already denied. And how many of Americas allies do you think are going to start accepting refugees from the US? They wouldn't risk the optics of it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

He could request asylum. He's under threat of political violence.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

the fact this is even being suggested shows a lack of familiarity with Australia's position on asylum seekers.

People from war-torn countries or fleeing genocide are held in international-law-violating limbo for decades, there's no chance in hell that somebody from a developed country is getting political asylum here, especially with the current poisoned rhetoric on immigration.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

And with Canada next door with a fairly open door immigration wise (even with recent reductions) that's the more likely play.

It feels like we're starting to set the scene for the Handmaid's Tale, with Americans claiming asylum in Canada.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

I have plenty of friends who just became Aussie citizens.

One literally was less than a week ago

What newspapers are saying and what's actually happening is two different things

I was joking about asylum, but there are many paths of entry

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I dont really think an ally of America that has almost 300 billion dollars tied up in trans-national investments is going to accept a refugee from America because they can't just take one without acknowledgeding the same violence threatens the entire lgbtq commubity as well as all the women who live in abortion ban states, and soon enough anyone in an inter racial marrige. Australia least of all, the immigration laws there are tight.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Firstly, I live in Australia.. We have lots of migrants here. So yeah, I've seen the policies. In fact, I get along better with migrants than many multi generation Aussies

And yeah, calling them refugees was part joke, but part truth. There are lots of ways to enter including work or study. If Trump wins, its possible he'll mess up so bad he'll be overthrown within 4 years (that's the worrying thing. I lived in Indonesia during the riots). So, anyone migrating might not need to last long (even the right wing will realize they fucked up bad)

Considering how many people Trump has pissed off including our ex PM, I don't think countries will hesitate as much as you think....

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t think countries will hesitate as much as you think…

There are 280million dollars worth of trans national investments between just the US and Australia. The US is the number 1 foreign investor in the Australian economy by a lot. I think you over value what politicians say and undervalue what they do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Mate, you're just spitting out numbers...

Trump already said f you to our ex prime Minister. You think Trump gives a toss about foreign investment?

If Trump does what everyone expects him to, it's even possible he'll get in a position where he loses allies

World leaders in general don't like trump.

He's openly being a Nazi now. If it's a cutthroat win, he'll start prosecuting anyone he disagrees with to Guarantee control. If it's a huge win, it's less likely. Don't forget, there were a lot of people affected by the Nazis, and he is openly being a Nazi now

But he'll do whatever he needs to do to have ultimate power.

Don't think world leaders though will bend over and take it from the golden diaper man... They'll simply tolerate him. Especially since he has a reputation for breaking contracts.

And he'll find every excuse he can to not pay either (if we send wool for instance, he'll find a few grains of dirt, claim it's low quality and than demand a refund or he'll send it back).

Don't underestimate the risk management other world leaders use on him

[–] [email protected] -1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Id love to hear about this risk management plan and about how much of the 280 billion gets divested in it, if any.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yeah.. I'm wrong. You're right

I'm sure internationally everyone loves dealing with a guy who breaks contracts.