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Its time to switch to Linux!

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (25 children)

I have a crazy idea.

What if y'all get together, and make a guide on an easy way to switch to idk Arch, since Valve is working with it.

You know, so that they don't have to spend a lot of money, and don't have to worry about losing all their data, and hopefully so they don't have to learn everything about Linux so they can enjoy using it right away.

Ha, I almost believed that was realistic rereading it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Exactly. Us Linux users, as a collective, tend to shoot ourselves in the foot here because we can't decide on the "best" distro for beginners. If we all just said one thing, with confidence and without arguments, and without saying "it depends...", more would probably make the switch.

No major outlets that the average user would frequent are likely to sell laptops with any Linux distro pre installed. Many non-technical users wouldn't even reinstall Windows by themselves, let alone Linux.

Any of the usual starter distros would be a good choice because once they are in the ecosystem they can find their own path. When a non technical person asks how to get Linux, there is no worse answer than a barrage of information followed by more questions. Just pick one, say it confidently, and assist them to make it happen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Problem though is it does depend, if they want to game pop or brazzite may be best, if they just want an lts then an lts is best, if they want all the updates fast maybe Fedora or endeavor, but if they want a more windows-y experience instead of mac-y then maybe FedoraKDE instead of Gnome..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The type of user who needs to ask where to start with Linux probably doesn't know how the difference between LTS and non-LTS will affect them in their daily life, yet. By the time you've finished explaining it to them, they've already decided that maybe Windows isn't so bad after all. Hence, my original point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I assumed you knew what the acronym stood for (and you clearly do) so I didn't type it out, but I think "Long-Term Stable" is fairly self explanatory at least to the level a newcomer would need.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't say they wouldn't know what it meant, I said they would be unlikely to know how it will affect them in their daily usage.

Most Windows users are accustomed to installing and updating their own applications, and letting the OS deal with its own updates and patches. They probably don't think much about all the dependencies and what version they're on because the installers deal with it.

When deciding whether to use a Linux LTS they may think it sounds like a good idea, with no appreciation for what happens when a package gets out of date, and their package manager won't update it, and they don't know why. They go down the rabbit hole of adding PPAs etc, which solves it in the short term maybe. Then it only gets worse from there, because they didn't understand that using an LTS means you have chosen to accept some packages being out of date for a while, until the next LTS is released.

Maybe they're the kind of person that is happy with that, or maybe they're not. But if you try to explain to the average Windows user about package repositories, Flatpaks, Snaps, LTS, rolling releases etc, you can pretty much guarantee they'll never try it because it sounds too damn hard.

Which brings me back to my original point... Us Linux users argue amongst ourselves too much about this stuff to attract Windows users, no matter what Microsoft does with their data.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"If you want super up to date stuff, an LTS is not your best choice, I'd go for something like Fedora and just keep back ups or set up snapper using this easy guide on youtube." (For example.)

”Package managers are basically your app store, you'll probably have the official one for your distro and then a general one called flatpak, use these for downloading your 'apps.'" They can understand a few basic things, they're windows users not Amish.

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