this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2024
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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 month ago (7 children)

God it would be so fucking nice if "vote with your wallet" wasn't literally impossible because so many fucking people are just apathetic and won't leave...

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, the issue with vote with your wallet is that all of the people's wallets combined are worth about 0 total votes compared to his and his friend's wallets.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

All of the people are the only thing that matter. The only reason anything is successful is because people use it en mass. If they all stopped, it would no longer be successful.

Granted, that's much easier said than done, but the fact remains.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

"Vote with your wallet" also means people with bigger wallets get bigger votes.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I vote with my wallet by not buying <thing>

Billionaires vote with their wallet by buying politicians and lawmakers.

It's a bit uneven.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Exactly, except it’s true of all voting, since if just 80% of people voted, the Democratic Party would actually be left wing and have a supermajority in every branch of the government.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That place only makes money from advertisers. It has lost something like 80% of them since he bought it. This is happening despite Twitter's actual users still mostly hanging around.

The advertisers are voting with their wallets; your wallet actually doesn't apply here. Apathy of the users doesn't apply here either. Musk continues to run the site the way he wants because, fuck it, who cares, he's still richer than god. None of this matters to him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It would be nice if other people joined because of the network effect, but ultimately your decision is about you and what you want. I never used Twitter (the format is terrible for the sort of thing I like to read) but there's an industry I'm morally opposed to and I refuse to support it despite the fact that this makes my life harder while that industry doesn't even notice losing one customer. They do still lose the money I would have spent, and that's a non-zero loss even if they aren't aware of it.

Maybe one day my contribution will be part of a network effect, but even without that I feel like I'm doing the right thing and that's enough for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

people are so easily controlled by FOMO it's pathetic