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It has been said a gazillion times over the last few months, but is it getting through to those who need to hear it?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I’m not quoting any one poll as gospel, either.

Says the person who did arithmetic with poll data from different polls that made no logical sense whatever.

Out of interest, whose side do you think I'm on?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Says the person who did arithmetic with poll data from different polls that made no logical sense whatever.

One more time for the people in the back: this is the type of data that was referenced by someone claiming that third partiers are all Harris supporters. Did you want me to disprove them by using some other unrelated data? I looked up the types of polls that THEY rferenced and ahowed that those polls do not show what they claimed.

You seem to have decided that third partiers favor Harris. So i am referring to you as being on "that side" of the argument. Is this not what you believe?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't recall anyone saying they were Harris supporters. Why would they vote third party if they supported Harris?! No, the people you're arguing with just said that they dislike Trump. I honestly don't know why you find that hard to believe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't recall anyone saying they were Harris supporters

You're joking right? I mean, at this point you must be joking. The entire premise of the article in this post was that third partiers are, to large extent, Harris over Trump supporters. This is the exact premise i am calling into question. Nothing else. Here's my exact quote: "And why is everyone assuming that all of the third party voters would be Harris voters if they were forced to choose between the two main candidates? This is where the logic goes south. It assumes that the third party voters are some homogenous bloc of disenfranchised "not Trump" voters."

I never claimed that anyone thinks that third partiers secretly prefer Harris over their own third party candidates. Where do come up with this?

No, the people you're arguing with just said that they dislike Trump.

I'm sorry, but you're mistaken. The article is specifically stating that third partiers prefer Harris over Trump. In all of my original comments i call this assumption into question. And all commenters after that follow (or should have followed) that train of thought. If they don't, then i have no quarrel with them because i am here to argue one thing and one thing only: the assumption that third partiers largely prefer Harris over Trump is a baseless claim. That's it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I think you should re-read the article. I don't think it says what you think it says. I think it says that they dislike Trump and they dislike Harris and that they might be mistaken in their belief that they dislike both equally, and that they should figure that out and vote to stop the one they dislike the most by voting for the other one. It doesn't at any point claim that third party voters support Harris.