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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (48 children)

This shit is so fucking stupid....

People ask why Kamala is so far right on so many issues compared to the Dem voter base...

And rather than say "yeah, I can't provide a valid reason she keeps going to the right", we keep getting these posts about how it doesn't matter?

Imagine if Kamala's line was just to the right of yours, whatever you care most about, she's just going to agree with trump on.

And when you go around, asking why you aren't important enough to be on Kamala's side of the line, everyone told you to stop being a baby and be happy with what you get, even tho what you want isn't included in her platform

Like, we don't gain votes by supporting a genocide.

We don't gain votes from a border wall and Trump's other border policies Kamala adopted.

Shit. Just being pro-fracking is going to lose us PA, and trump can't win the election without PA.

That one fucking issue that not a single person can explain why she holds. That's all it would take to prevent trump.

But instead of using your time productively to try and get Kamala to change while there's still time...

You want to shit on the people the party left behind?

Like this doesn't even seem like trying to bully them into voting anymore, you're punching down on these people constantly and gleefully....

You're acting exactly like a fucking trump supporter.

TLDR:

The people trying to pull Kamala left are the ones helping Kamala

You're trying to do the same thing Hillary supporters tried to do in 2016....

Do you honestly not remember how that worked out?

Or is this all intentional?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

@[email protected]

Imagine if Kamala's line was just to the right of yours, whatever you care most about, she's just going to agree with trump on.

But that is not how it works. If she is to your right, she will hold a position to the right of your position. That's all. How do you equate her being to your right to her agreeing with Trump? That assumes that to your right everything is one single position. But that is of course not the case. It's a continuum, and Kamala is probably closer to you than Trump is.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

How do you equate her being to your right to her agreeing with Trump?

The shitty "meme" that your commenting under....

Specifically?

Being pro fracking, for Trump's border wall....

Pretty much all those policies that she agrees with trump on..

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Surely there are more policies she disagrees with Trump that policies she agrees with him. Shouldn't that proportion be enough to make progressive voters to vote for her?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

It should.

But it isn't.

So why don't we try to get Kamala away from that conservative policy? It gets the votes to beat trump and we end up with a president who's policy aligns more closely with the Dem voter base.

It's literally a win/win, why spend time yelling at people to vote (when we know that's not effective) instead of trying to get Kamala to move to the left and get the votes?

When we know that's effective

If Biden hadn't been pulled left in 2020, he wouldn't have beat trump.

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