this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2024
188 points (100.0% liked)

the_dunk_tank

15900 readers
545 users here now

It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.

Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.

Rule 3: No sectarianism.

Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome

Rule 5: No ableism of any kind (that includes stuff like libt*rd)

Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.

Rule 7: Do not individually target other instances' admins or moderators.

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this. Posts that do not meet this requirement can be posted to [email protected]

Rule 9: if you post ironic rage bait im going to make a personal visit to your house to make sure you never make this mistake again

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 96 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Why do Zionists act like Isreal was "carved out of the desert" from nothing? Palestine has been inhabited by people for thousands of years. Some of the oldest continously inhabited cites are in the Levant.

I mean i get its there nonsense propaganda, but it's so ignorant of just obvious things - like you know thousand year old cities

[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It is part of the dehumanization of the native population. "They were all primitive and savage and now look how we've civilized the place." To propagate the myth of a land without a people, just the same as the Native American or the Native Australian populations who have been conveniently ignored so you could displace and/or kill them.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I never realized it but you're right that it seems extremely reminiscent of the myth of the untouched wilderness of North America or Australia. It's like "Wow! It's so empty and ready for settling!" when there's whole populations and societies who have lived there for thousands of years and carefully cultivated the environment. Both still have to go through a long, struggling genocide to settle the area so you think that would dispel the myth right there, but for some reason it still persists for all 3 areas, even today.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago

the term colonists came up with for this illusion is "terra nullius"

[–] [email protected] 64 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Palestine was fertile olive groves and wheat fields since antiquity. Is Italy a desert as well?

Its like euro settlers in the americas calling native civilizations “a vast empty wilderness”

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

It is simultaneously the land of milk and honey promised to them by god and also a lifeless desert with no prior inhabitants, except them 3000 years ago they were there first, err I mean exclusively.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

A side effect of the Nakba was increased desertification of Palestine, because Isn'treal neither had the manpower, nor the knowledge of running the intricate water infrastructure of palestine after ethnically cleansing most of the place.

Israel did not make the desert bloom, it made the larger.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 days ago

The whole project is anchored around delusional worldbuilding, the point is to erase thousands of years of history and construct a simulacra dreamt up in the fever dreams of 19th century European orientalists

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 days ago

Ignorant? They’re well aware, they’re just lying

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

The term "The Frontier" was already taken by the USA.