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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, digital piracy isn't stealing regardless of the premise that buying ≠ owning.

Stealing is taking another's property without the intent to return it. Making a digital copy is not taking any property, it's creating a reproduction of it. The only place left to argue that piracy is stealing would be to say that you're stealing the company's theoretical revenue... but that revenue was never tangible property, being that it's your money up until the moment you give it to them. Piracy is, and only is, copyright infringement.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why are you entitled to any video game you want for free?

I'd argue stealing is also taking something for free that you would normally have to pay for.

Aren't you essentially arguing all digital property is worthless because its made of nothing?

You know thats not true though, there is worth or else you wouldnt want to steal it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why are you entitled to any video game you want for free?

Nobody here has claimed that, don't put words in their mouths.

I'd argue stealing is also taking something for free that you would normally have to pay for.

Thats cool. You're wrong, though.

Aren't you essentially arguing all digital property is worthless because its made of nothing?

Nope, they're pointing out that it's infinitely reproducible and thus making a copy doesn't deprive someone of their copy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And then use that as justification to steal it. What a fun circle we just went in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

steal

Not what's happening, as has been said. Legally, not just semantically

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm saying stealing and piracy are equivalent. Different words for the same thing. It does make sense pirates don't want to be associated with the thieves, but as someone who has been around both groups, they are exactly the same thing.

Its the same as me going on farms and stealing fruit from their trees and calling it fruit sharing instead of theft. You can call it whatever you want, its still stealing when it comes to morals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm saying stealing and piracy are equivalent

Say it all you want, it's not true

Different words for the same thing

Nope, not the same thing at all

they are exactly the same thing

Only to someone as dumb as you

Its the same as me going on farms and stealing fruit from their trees and calling it fruit sharing instead of theft

Nope, that's theft. You've deprived someone of their fruit. You having that fruit means they do not. Do you see the clear and obvious difference here?

its still stealing when it comes to morals

Only if you're an idiot. Again, nobody's been deprived of something they'd otherwise have

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm an idiot who doesnt want art to become worthless and cease to be made. But go ahead and steal from the people who make the thing you enjoy so much, why not. Its actually the moral thing to do right? Not stealing at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm an idiot

Hey, finally something we can agree on!

doesnt want art to become worthless and cease to be made

I guarantee you it's not the pirates that will do that

But go ahead and steal

Not stealing, it's very simple, I can't believe you haven't figured that out yet

Its actually the moral thing to do right?

That poor strawman you built sure is taking a beating, damn

Not stealing at all

It literally isn't, you've just shoved your head so far up your ass you refuse to understand the basics that even the law disagrees with your take

Then you wanna pretend like the reason I keep pointing that out is some morality issue when I don't give a fuck about the morality of it at all

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Well thats certainly a position, fuck morality and all.