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malicious hexbears are taking advantage of people's trauma to turn them against the west folks (and judging by the recent survey, turning them trans too? kyle )

https://lemmy.world/comment/12777548 link cuz im not a lib

the comment in the screeshot is responding to @[email protected]'s wholesome introduction post here: https://hexbear.net/post/3631051

I made a TLDR here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5484512

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We've only had ONE real bad struggle session and it's the vegan one, which lasted like half a week three years ago

And frankly compared to shit like the 2017 multi-thread struggle session about how "Native Americans are racist ethno-nationalists" which dominated r/chapotraphouse for half a summer, people on this site are living in forum paradise

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And frankly compared to shit like the 2017 multi-thread struggle session about how "Native Americans are racist ethno-nationalists"

Man, thank god i missed or forgot about that thread in the sub

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To this day the funniest struggle session is the time a power poster from r/blackfellas launched a one-man offensive against the whole of r/chapotraphouse

Man spent the whole thread cussing out the whole sub with half of us joining him and the other half getting in their white feelings, the joy I felt that day, we straight up cuffed half the sub and let that man execute them one by one

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected] this you? jk jk but it does sound like something you might do here lol

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ehhhhhh doubtful. I was around for r/genzedong but I think cth was gone by the time I was indulging misplaced redditor brainworms. Shit, 'blackfellas' sounds like a op on a place like Reddit; I didn't fuck with a single poc sub because I couldn't shake that sense that it was all digital blackface all the way down.

Like, when I talk to Angel or other homies from em_poc I actually believe that's kinfolk. I never once got that feeling on reddit, anywhere; so I wouldn't go to at for any of 'em like that lmao

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Interestingly the digital blackface problem was precisely the reason r/blackfellas went mod invitation only six years ago, and the "lurking" problem was a constant source of annoyance for people on the sub, having to deal with the constant stream of "As a white person I understand your struggle" posts

I remember that was actually one of the reasons that power user launched his blitz against the chapo sub, before the 2017 purge of the stupidpol racists, the chapo sub had a toxic reputation with many poc people on the site (especially black users), but the semi-miracle of early 2018 chapo brought many poc people back to the sub, which was why that power user was a little surprised when half the sub and most of the mods backed up his claims and takes

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah i mean it would have been vanishingly unlikely it would have been you lol, i more so meant you would fight half of hexbear at once if you thought it necessary just like the guy cyborg was talking about. as far as reddit, obviously I'm white so i can't say for certain but BPT when they first did that country club thing seemed like it had a relatively decent chance of actually being made up of mostly black people, but unfortunately the mods are liberals so they eventually let what was both a great bit and honestly a great thing slide and these days it feels like how it used to and also feels incredibly astroturfed, even the country club threads feel basically the same to me

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

you would fight half of hexbear at once if you thought it necessary just like the guy cyborg was talking about.

Oh absolutely; but if I'm fighting you, it's probably because I still think there's something worth saving in there. It's when I become indifferent that you're fucked lmao.

BPT when they first did that country club thing seemed like it had a relatively decent chance of actually being made up of mostly black people

Not wrong! Also not wrong about the astroturf; reason I never felt cool around BPT was because I didn't know what to call it yet, but it felt wrong that so much skinfolk could be counted on to go to bat for people who even BEFORE the DNC's mask-off "go fuck yourself" energy, were obviously just taking our support for granted because who else are we gonna vote for, the party of the Klan? The me that exists these days knows them for the misleaders they've always been.

(Honestly in hindsight, a lot of my bias against BPT might've been because I recognized the same manner of talking there that skinfolk on DemocraticUnderground tended to dabble in; and a lot of what started me down the path of ML was just rank, flagrant disgust for the misleadership I was perceiving on a subcon level even at that point in my life regarding the contradiction of being a Black democrat post-2000.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i'll always have a soft place in my heart for BPT though, seeing everyone freak out about how racist it supposedly was to try and make a subreddit about black people actually be majority black provided hours of entertainment even though I wasn't a socialist yet. just endless waves of my fellow crackers, as you would put it, showing their whole asses

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is the heart of critical support. I'm not gonna sit here and front like watching stupidpol posters mald about them wasn't funny as fuck lmao. "Oh wah, they support segregation", "separatist" this and that aimed at the most milquetoast of misled liberals; my settler in white jesus 99.999% of your subs are white-dominated

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i mean from my understanding the transphobe/downvote struggle session had to be at least almost as bad lol.

and good god I'm kind of glad I just thought yall were silly tankies who were kind of funny with the post hog bit back then, that sounds horrid

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That was too one-sided to really be called a struggle session, it was more like a dozen people just blatantly outing themselves as transphobes without any pretext, and after a month damn near 95% of the site agreed removing downvotes improved site functionality and reduced toxicity

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

that's true from what I've read, more of a purge than a struggle session lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Uphold TransComrade69 thought! 🫡

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

i always stand and salute for the flag flag-trans-pride

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I spent so long in the posting mines during the multiple neopronoun struggle sessions. You'd never guess which paleopronouns were most vocal in those threads. 😄

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

is paleopronouns a joke for he/him? /srs

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Really it's a broader joke-y term for the standard set of English pronouns, but I am particularly referencing the high proportion of he/him-tagged transphobes that were purged in the great conflagration. Now I mostly just pick at that scab to see if there are lurking #NotAllMen posters who have simply failed to show the entirety of their asses, yet.

I think there were (and to some degree still are) just a lot of performatively radical posters who could not actually bring themselves to introspect and deprogram reactionary parts of themselves. The majority of the early user base was Redditors, and the majority of Redditors are the big pink slice in the trans survey, and operating exclusively from the dominant end of cultural hegemony takes real fucking work to unwind.

Anecdotally, many cases where this introspection cracked a bunch of eggs. ⚧️

I think there are ways in which it is better now, but I definitely miss the anarchic flavor of the very early chapo.chat/hexbear community. A lot of that was probably COVID madness and isolation hornt, to be fair. Still more trans/misogyny and racist brainworms than I think most Hexbears would be keen to admit, but the purges really did set a tone that at least sets the floor of discourse a fair bit higher than most in the common social media diet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

anyone on this site who falls for a #notallmen bait post deserves to not only get banned for misogyny but also for being dumb enough to get got the by the same kind of bait I see liberal feminists use, it's like the most baby brain basic shit and also is very obviously bait, like if i ever see someone fall for a post at the level of "women would choose the bear" on a site that's supposed to have socialists that can think through things I might delete my account of embarrassment for them and as atonement for also being cis male (/hj i'm very attached to the bit for this account i dont think i would be able to bring myself to do it and I'm kinda afraid someone would immediately link me a thread with a long time hexbear user falling for it). ironically i think a bait post I would be far less embarrassed about was if that dogshit cheating thread a week and half ago (I can get the link if you need to see what I'm talking about) had been posted by someone on an alt account, i dont think the immediate story would bait anyone into a #notallmen type position but it still got a lot of hexbear he/hims to show their asses

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That thread was wild. Moralism is the spectre haunting Hexbear.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

oh god so people were being dumb here on hexbear? oooaaaaaaauhhh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, I actually may be a Lemmy boomer and read the thread on whichever hell instance clicking through a link here and the app I use did not make that sufficiently obvious. I'll have to go find it again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

there's still hope for my account then...