▲ 286 ▼ Are you ready for another Bush v. Gore? The Supreme Court is. (www.motherjones.com) submitted 2 years ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 69 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] radroot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Those weren't enough people and you can't protest an idea the way occupy protested greed. It just didn't work. When you look at the pictures of places that have done this they have completely filled the streets, to the point there is no controlling the crowd. Filling a park or a "free speech zone" isn't going to do it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Or in 2000 when 750K joined the Million Moms March and stopped gun violence. Or in 2004 when 1.2 million marched to protect abortion rights and 2017 when 500K joined the Pussyhat Protests and prevented Roe v. Wade from being overturned. Or in 2014 when 300K joined the People's Climate Match and stopped climate change. Yep, walking around with signs has truly been the only way "effective change" has happened in "the last two decades." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) You need to start adding a zero to get numbers that change things. The abortion rights marches have absolutely changed stuff. The Republicans refuse to admit they ever had anything to do with getting rid of abortion and abortion rights have won in all 7 states that already voted on it. Now they're on the ballot in 11 states for November. When you get enough people, and it's not some nebulous idea like gun violence, stuff actually happens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah, all we need is an organized, non-violent ten-million person march, then we can change things! 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, just miss that order of magnitude in the middle there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So 1.2M needs a zero, but 10M is an order of magnitude too high? Ok. 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah 3/4 examples are below a million. So it must be that one high outlier, that's also actually working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lol k permalink fedilink source parent [+] radroot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago No permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Those weren't enough people and you can't protest an idea the way occupy protested greed. It just didn't work. When you look at the pictures of places that have done this they have completely filled the streets, to the point there is no controlling the crowd. Filling a park or a "free speech zone" isn't going to do it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Or in 2000 when 750K joined the Million Moms March and stopped gun violence. Or in 2004 when 1.2 million marched to protect abortion rights and 2017 when 500K joined the Pussyhat Protests and prevented Roe v. Wade from being overturned. Or in 2014 when 300K joined the People's Climate Match and stopped climate change. Yep, walking around with signs has truly been the only way "effective change" has happened in "the last two decades." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) You need to start adding a zero to get numbers that change things. The abortion rights marches have absolutely changed stuff. The Republicans refuse to admit they ever had anything to do with getting rid of abortion and abortion rights have won in all 7 states that already voted on it. Now they're on the ballot in 11 states for November. When you get enough people, and it's not some nebulous idea like gun violence, stuff actually happens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah, all we need is an organized, non-violent ten-million person march, then we can change things! 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, just miss that order of magnitude in the middle there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So 1.2M needs a zero, but 10M is an order of magnitude too high? Ok. 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah 3/4 examples are below a million. So it must be that one high outlier, that's also actually working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lol k permalink fedilink source parent [+] radroot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago No permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) You need to start adding a zero to get numbers that change things. The abortion rights marches have absolutely changed stuff. The Republicans refuse to admit they ever had anything to do with getting rid of abortion and abortion rights have won in all 7 states that already voted on it. Now they're on the ballot in 11 states for November. When you get enough people, and it's not some nebulous idea like gun violence, stuff actually happens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah, all we need is an organized, non-violent ten-million person march, then we can change things! 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, just miss that order of magnitude in the middle there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So 1.2M needs a zero, but 10M is an order of magnitude too high? Ok. 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah 3/4 examples are below a million. So it must be that one high outlier, that's also actually working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lol k permalink fedilink source parent [+] radroot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago No permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah, all we need is an organized, non-violent ten-million person march, then we can change things! 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, just miss that order of magnitude in the middle there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So 1.2M needs a zero, but 10M is an order of magnitude too high? Ok. 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah 3/4 examples are below a million. So it must be that one high outlier, that's also actually working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lol k permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, just miss that order of magnitude in the middle there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So 1.2M needs a zero, but 10M is an order of magnitude too high? Ok. 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah 3/4 examples are below a million. So it must be that one high outlier, that's also actually working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lol k permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) So 1.2M needs a zero, but 10M is an order of magnitude too high? Ok. 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah 3/4 examples are below a million. So it must be that one high outlier, that's also actually working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lol k permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah 3/4 examples are below a million. So it must be that one high outlier, that's also actually working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lol k permalink fedilink source parent
[+] radroot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago No permalink fedilink source parent