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    Newbies never listen... (sh.itjust.works)
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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I ask out of ignorance - why would it be different?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    Debian doesn't have sudo by default, you have to install it manually

    Not sure what they mean by "non Ubuntu variants" though since most other distros add it even when they aren't Ubuntu based

    [–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    Ubuntu uses Snaps for a lot of the software, thus, when you write sudo apt install firefox that is actually an alias for "install firefox from snap". Snaps get installed locally, not on the system (globally, for all users), but as a user, so you really can't do much damage when you actually didn't do anything to the system in the first place.

    Do sudo shit on any other distro that doesn't have a company behind it, see what happens.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    True, but not actually the reason, it's because Debian doesn't discourage the use of the root account, and su is used instead of sudo.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Really? But why?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Because if you have sudo, you have root. Side effect of being a server system, too. During install, if you specify a root password, sudo is not installed. If you don't, it is. Ubuntu just defaulted to the latter.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    So that is why I always have to install sudo manually 🤦.

    And I think older versions also left you at root, you had to define a user account manually. I think that's not the case now as I recall (I haven't installed Debian in a while).

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

    Yea I switched from Ubuntu on my past few installs to avoid snaps. Glad I did, basically the same experience.