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Image is of a Hezbollah missile attack on a military camp west of Jenin.


The situation between Hezbollah and Israel is rapidly escalating, with massive bombing campaigns on southern Lebanon by Israel predominantly on civilians (as the tunnels in South Lebanon are mostly unreachable to the Zionists, just like in Gaza), while Hezbollah and its allies respond with missile attacks predominantly on Israeli military facilities. Israel is spreading an evacuation order to the residents of southern Lebanese villages while also bombing their routes of escape and civilian infrastructure, similar to a terror tactic used widely in Gaza.

Northern Israel is currently under military censorship to hide their losses, so we get very little information other than what the Resistance provides and what videos and images get through the censors.

I don't know if Israel will dare a ground incursion soon, but it seems fairly likely in the coming days or weeks.


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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (67 children)

Говорит Шестиугольный Медведь!

Сообщение Совинформбюро!

Hi!

I'm here to publish the list of proposals, made both by the mod team in internal discussions and from proposals made by users last week, to be voted on by the news heads.

The process will be quite simple. Below this comment will be a series of comments from me.

They will follow the format of...

  • geordi-yes YES VOTE

  • geordi-no NO VOTE

If you agree with the proposal, upvote the comment with geordi-yes YES VOTE. If you disagree with the proposal, upvote the comment with geordi-no NO VOTE.

The voting margin to pass a proposal as approved shall be with a minimum floor of 36 upvotes, based on the rounded rough average of megathread upvotes of popular comments divided in half. Should a proposal be passed but prove to be controversial by also receiving a no vote of at least 26 votes, the proposal shall be tabled and reworked for presentation at a future megathread should the need arise.

Additionally, the floor will still be open to new proposals with a caveat that the minimum floor for acceptance for deliberation by the council of news mods shall be 31 upvotes. This is just in case someone is struck by the lightning of inspiration and wants to bring up an idea to shape the comm in a better direction.

The polls are now open.

Semper post, news hogs.

Edit: P.S, I know some of the proposals are kinda scuffed looking, if they pass I'll format them so they look like the others on the rule sidebar. chalk it up to my laziness lol

Edit 2: P.P.S Pig poop balls.The voting period shall last until the megathread is locked.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Inspired by the source in title and time qualifier proposals. While placing a time qualifier on what constitutes current news is a too strong measure imho Id propose a softer form:

Proposal:

Encouragement to post the date of news in the title or comment body on the mega, especially if you know that what you post is not current (e.g. one month)

Disclaimer: I'm mostly a lurker and am aware that this can be seen as a big ask

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

MM/DD/YY or DD/MM/YY?

now we're really bikeshedding

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

YYYY-MM-DD of course

Joking aside: I may be off, but I interpreted the rule proposal https://hexbear.net/comment/5426732 as a rule that if enforced, not current news get removed and voted no as a result. Sometimes you stumble upon articles that I haven't seen discussed here but are somewhat dated yet still contain worthwhile information

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah, we did have some discussion in our top secret news mega mod chat about this topic. Myself in particular was worried about removing news about more obscure places where news about events can take a while to percolate out of, or news/analysis that initially seemed unimportant later became very important.

My impression has been that the proposed set of rules is more about codifying existing but unlisted rules, as well as some minor improvements. The news megathread has always been under more relaxed rules than the rest of the comm (e.g. if somebody like LargePenis starts talking about Iran in the 1980s, we aren't going to be like "Erm, this breaks the rules and has to be removed, acktually", whereas a post in the news comm about that same thing would probably get redirected to a different comm). And besides, those kinds of effortposts are almost always in relation to ongoing events and providing context. It's basically never happened that somebody's come here with a big essay on like, the War of the Roses or some old thing entirely unrelated to recent events, it's just not an issue that we have to moderate. When somebody comes across a post that's like 6 months old on idk, an understudied facet of events in Gaza, and then posts it here, it's still very relevant analysis even if it isn't news.

So we don't anticipate having to be terribly more strict inside this megathread about "old news". Things should not change much at all, in here at least.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

You're absolutely right I haven't ever seen that things got removed for beeing to old. Somehow the rule just read very strict to me as ESL, but liked the idea of knowing the date of the information before I click, hence the proposal.

I really appreciate the quality, transparency and participatory aspect of moderation (and hexbear general) and love the culture here. The news mega (and hb) is the first thing I check in the morning heart-sickle

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is a good suggestion and should not be considered a joke at all. Most-to-least significant ordering is what everyone should use, always. And hyphens are already incorporated into most standards with that ordering (e.g. RFC 3339 and ISO 8601). (Fixed widths are also important to allow lexiographic sorting when there isn't anything around to actually parse the dates into their separate fields, but that's mostly an automation/computing thing.)

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