▲ 618 ▼ US can’t ban TikTok for security reasons while ignoring Temu, other apps, TikTok argues (arstechnica.com) submitted 2 years ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 150 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago They desperately need to do something about car software before China starts being really relevant here in EVs too. I absolutely support massively restricting what anyone can gather, not just China, (and the same for social media/ad networks/retailers), but it's fundamentally not the same threat as data vacuums controlled by an enemy state. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (3 children) pretty sure china can just buy all the info they want from facebook, twitter. If I recall a bunch of US secret military sites were exposed by apple watches permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but a lot of that can easily be done via corporate proxies as well. After all its not hard to make a corporation in the US permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago After all its not hard to make a corporation in the US ...A US corporation is subject to US laws. ByteDance is subject to Chinese laws. If TikTok wants to do everything that it's currently doing, but under US law and under US scrutiny, they're more than welcome to do so. But they're currently evading any serious scrutiny. Hence the reason to shut them down if they refuse gov't oversight. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago Extremely well said, thank you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 2 years ago The fears, however reasonable you may find them, are largely that it presents a danger of foreign information gathering of detailed behavioral/location/interest/social network information on a huge swath of the U.S. population which can be used either for intelligence purposes or targeted influence/psyops campaigns within the U.S. Tbh, I'm troubled by my own government doing that to us. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago They desperately need to do something about car software before China starts being really relevant here in EVs too. I absolutely support massively restricting what anyone can gather, not just China, (and the same for social media/ad networks/retailers), but it's fundamentally not the same threat as data vacuums controlled by an enemy state. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (3 children) pretty sure china can just buy all the info they want from facebook, twitter. If I recall a bunch of US secret military sites were exposed by apple watches permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but a lot of that can easily be done via corporate proxies as well. After all its not hard to make a corporation in the US permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago After all its not hard to make a corporation in the US ...A US corporation is subject to US laws. ByteDance is subject to Chinese laws. If TikTok wants to do everything that it's currently doing, but under US law and under US scrutiny, they're more than welcome to do so. But they're currently evading any serious scrutiny. Hence the reason to shut them down if they refuse gov't oversight. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but a lot of that can easily be done via corporate proxies as well. After all its not hard to make a corporation in the US permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago After all its not hard to make a corporation in the US ...A US corporation is subject to US laws. ByteDance is subject to Chinese laws. If TikTok wants to do everything that it's currently doing, but under US law and under US scrutiny, they're more than welcome to do so. But they're currently evading any serious scrutiny. Hence the reason to shut them down if they refuse gov't oversight. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but a lot of that can easily be done via corporate proxies as well. After all its not hard to make a corporation in the US permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago After all its not hard to make a corporation in the US ...A US corporation is subject to US laws. ByteDance is subject to Chinese laws. If TikTok wants to do everything that it's currently doing, but under US law and under US scrutiny, they're more than welcome to do so. But they're currently evading any serious scrutiny. Hence the reason to shut them down if they refuse gov't oversight. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago After all its not hard to make a corporation in the US ...A US corporation is subject to US laws. ByteDance is subject to Chinese laws. If TikTok wants to do everything that it's currently doing, but under US law and under US scrutiny, they're more than welcome to do so. But they're currently evading any serious scrutiny. Hence the reason to shut them down if they refuse gov't oversight. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago Extremely well said, thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 2 years ago The fears, however reasonable you may find them, are largely that it presents a danger of foreign information gathering of detailed behavioral/location/interest/social network information on a huge swath of the U.S. population which can be used either for intelligence purposes or targeted influence/psyops campaigns within the U.S. Tbh, I'm troubled by my own government doing that to us. permalink fedilink source parent