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You have to keep posting to Twitter because that's where the people are.
However, if you post to BOTH Twitter and Mastodon, you allow people to move. It wouldn't take many people doing this to start the wave.
If you're Taylor Swift, you can post wherever you want and most Swifties will follow.
I will lose some respect for her if she does continue to use it. She really does not need it and people will indeed follow her elsewhere en masse. I think she's been sitting on her star power a bit too much and could really do some good with it.
Almost all celebrities get to where they are specifically not because they are amazing people. It requires a special kind of mindset to pursue fame and status to such an extent.
She could start a Mastodon instance called "swift social" and charge for access
No, you don't. Screw Twitter and the people still on it.
After the ban of Twitter in Brazil my opinion on that matter changed. There's a lot of artist that depend on that hell for work. Is not that simple to change platform. It's easy to move on when your income doesn't depend on it.
Except if a huge star like Taylor Swift were to declare a new social media site THE site, it would help get an audience for artists elsewhere.
Yeah only they can do something like that.
You know what? You're right. No artist was able to make a living before Twitter. I don't know what I was thinking.
Here, let's wrap this up.
Some people are making money on Twitter. The vast, vast majority are not. It's easily thousands to one. Those thousands of people have absolutely no argument.
Those that are making a living have a choice to make... continue being hostage to and supporting a platform that actively makes the world worse using the money they obtain from their support, or find an audience the old fashioned way. If you are talented, your audience will find you. I don't buy that you NEED a particular platform. I don't begrudge someone who is making money their decision to stay and keep making it, but you don't get out of it with a squeaky clean "oh well, it is what it is". There are professionals who work for shit companies that do awful things because they understand the evil crap they're supporting and they've accepted that they will be judged for that activity, and the income is their compensation for it. Anyone who stays on Twitter for a living should be prepared for the same judgement. But if that's the case, I hope they're making enough to make it worth it.
Yeah the artist that create a small community in a platform with reliable income after a huge pain in the ass work need to redo most of that work in another platform because some rich stupid moron billionaire touch on that platform and transform it into shit. Definitely screw those guys, move on or be judged!
They are the minority but it is still a fucked situation created by a douche.
It's not that I don't sympathize, but that IS what happened. The platform is no longer something you can use without carrying that weight. You just can't. Yes, it sucks for them, but people's workflows and ability to do their jobs get disrupted all the time. Factories shut down. Industries get replaced.
Yes, the work is hard, and yes it isn't their fault that this happened. But life isn't fair. The fact is staying with this platform is delivering income to a man who who is running his own judicial review of the laws of democratic countries, just threatened to rape Taylor Swift on an international platform, and thinks the world should be run by incels. Absolutely NO amount of "But I'd have to find a new audience..." changes that. I understand it isn't easy, but sometimes doing the right thing is hard. That doesn't mean you get a pass to not do it. If making the right decisions were easy and involved no personal sacrifice, everyone would do it all the time.
I see your point of view, now I know you understand the struggle for them to move on and how fucked up is the situation.
Oh, I do. It isn't easy. But all it takes for evil to win is for good to do nothing.
I'm afraid that's not how the world works.
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Taylor Swift is clouted up. She can move away from Twitter and people will follow.
Taylor could make her own site and it'd rival twitter in short order. Society isn't beholden to musk and the sooner people realize that, the sooner we can leave him in the dust.
She could investigate whatever the hell happened to https://mozilla.social and see if she could get that off the ground.
Twitter is only populated because that's where the creators are. If the creators leave, the people will follow.
Yep. And it's okay to say "when" here.
There's no one-in-a-million magical future timeline where Elmo stops enshitifying Xitter and it rallies to remain relevant.
It's just a matter of how long inertia carries folks before Xitter joins the Sears catalog.