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The stuff I see on social media makes me angry, and Kamala is not a perfect candidate (lemmy.world)
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[–] 10 points 2 years ago (15 children)

We can change the Dems and push them towards actually being good by just uncritically voting for them every election I see no flaw in this plan.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Not to mention showing up for the primaries too.

    It fucking mystifies me that people will condemn the dems for never voting for progressives in primaries, and then just never turn out to the primaries themselves.

    Primary turnout is consistently pathetic and an abject condemnation of the wannabe revolutionaries who speak with fire then act with all the likewise energy of cosmic background radiation.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    "I don't understand what a primary is", the voter.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    Let me check who I could've voted for Dem presidential candidate this year in the primaries. Here's the list:

    Oh I should've voted in 2020? I could've chose between:

    1. Biden (no)
    2. Bernie "Israel has every right to defend itself" Sanders
    3. Bloomberg (lmao)
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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    "Bernie Sanders isn't pure enough for me" Jesus fucking Christ.

    Like, how left do you think the electorate in this country is, exactly?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    If it makes you feel any better I did vote for him in the primaries.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    He's one of the leftmost politicians in the entire country. And the electorate itself is not exactly ready to sing the Internationale. So you're here bitching for what?

    "Voting for the more left of the two parties won't move them left!"

    "Okay, vote for the leftmost candidate in the primaries."

    "None of them were pure enough for me."

    "Bernie is one of the leftmost figures in the entire country."

    "Well, I did vote for him."

    ???

    Did you vote for him expecting a Sanders victory wouldn't move the party left? Were you just having fun filling out your ballot?

    Fuck's sake.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't think electoralism is enough to overturn the system no. I'll participate in it insofar as filling out a bubble takes almost no effort. Don't expect me to be enthusiastic about it.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Moving the system left is not the same as overturning it. A leaning structure is easier to topple in a direction than an upright one.

    Moving the system left and accepting that the system isn't going to be simply voted into oblivion are not mutually exclusive.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Biden (no)

    why not biden? His admin has been pretty productive in the term they've had thus far, pushing through multiple legislative accomplishments, only heeded by the worst of the worst (the border)

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Best to wait until the opposition isn’t someone who will straight up take away your ability to vote in the first place.

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