352
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 31 Aug 2024
352 points (96.6% liked)
United States | News & Politics
3067 readers
1974 users here now
Welcome to [email protected], where you can share and converse about the different things happening all over/about the United States.
If you’re interested in participating, please subscribe.
Rules
Be respectful and civil. No racism/bigotry/hateful speech.
Post anything related to the United States.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Conservative decides to leave a very liberal state and move to a conservative state, doesn't like it there, moves back to liberal state because it's better there.
Is probably still conservative.
???
Conservatives aren't exactly known for learning lessons.
You'd think that a teacher would be able to learn lessons.
You must be thinking of a learner.
That's the delicious irony of it.
Theres an adage that goes 'them as cant do, teach'
I recently had an insight on (US) politics that applies here. Our ridiculous two party system is unsurprisingly to blame for this. Both parties encompass both reasonable and terrible ideas. And members of both parties are fed entirely different pieces of propaganda. So republicans are fed the idea that all democrats embrace the worst, extreme ideas that fall under the democratic umbrella. While democrats are fed the idea that all republicans embrace the worst, extreme ideas that fall under the republican umbrella. This makes members of both parties see the other as simply evil and so the opposing party is impossible to embrace. It often doesn’t matter what experiences a person goes through.
I was trying to come up with an example of a reasonable Republican policy but I failed. Can you help me out with an example?
So nothing in the Project 2025 Manifesto jumped out at you as being fun and cool for everybody?
Right wingers have an unreasonably radical view of liberals because that's what the right wing hate machine churns out relentlessly. Liberals think most right wingers are confused but reasonable because thinking otherwise clashes with liberal philosophy. Leftists think that right wingers are rabid fascists because right wingers always show themselves to be rabid fascists the moment someone gives them permission. Enlightened centrists think both sides have equal and opposite prejudices because they like that vibe, not because it reflects reality.
I'm sorry but this false equivalence is BS. Conservatives are eating propaganda happily and there is definitely liberal propaganda. But nobody is making up the awful things conservatives are embracing in vast majorities worldwide. You don't need to make anything up to find awful things in the right, the way the right is making things up about liberals.
Honestly, I agree with what you’re saying. And yet, conservatives are told that liberals are killing babies via abortion. It’s a bunch of nonsense IMO. But once a person embraces an idea like that, they’ll probably never vote democrat again.
My comment isn’t saying that one side or the other is better. I was explaining why people in the US pick a political party and usually stick with it for a lifetime. It’s because they believe the other side is evil regardless of reality. We have a messed up system.
Edit: well this is ridiculous. I stumbled across this post only 5 minutes after writing this comment. Somehow, it’s actually worse that the random example I offered. I hate our political system. It’s awful.
No, again, both sides are not the same because that, 'regardless of reality.' is not the same for both. Democrats aren't aborting live babies. That is made up. Trump separated children from their families at the border and killed them. That is a fact.
The reason both sides are not the same is easy just follow the money. Who owns what and who do they support, both here and abroad?