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Is there any way to realistically stop this now? It's not just a US isolated situation, it's a worldwide phenomenon. Even China has fully opened up. Is COVID just going to be like influenza, around forever with a similar or higher annual death toll? So basically having the equivalent of two or three flu seasons at once for the foreseeable future? That's a dark thought
The West really fucked the rest of the entire world by basically not doing fucking anything and then hoarding vaccines. Just another iteration of the West fucking over the rest of the world for centuries I guess
I mean even if the west acted in the best collective interests of humanity, the problem of COVID still being around would still exist. Yes the initial death toll and long COVID numbers would have been much, much lower, but COVID would still exist now. Which is what I'm getting at. There doesn't appear to be a solution to stop that. While vaccines are very helpful, we can't vaccinate against COVID like we vaccinated against measles and polio for example, COVID mutates and spreads too quickly, so you keep on needing new vaccines. Even with all our scientific and social advancement, we're still stumped.
I just struggle to imagine we'd be in anywhere close to the position we currently are if the rest of the world had followed the example of AES states, particularly China, and had actual serious lockdowns when the WHO declared the pandemic, followed by local lockdowns for local outbreaks, along with mobilizing the military to go door to door handing out food so people wouldnt have to risk going to grocery stores. But the West couldnt abide that, because the line might keep going down for a little while longer. I think the US turning it's working class into a petri dish for COVID mutations was just about the worst possible thing that could've happened, while the entire bourgeoisie kept adhering to COVID precautions. But maybe you're right and we wouldn't have been able to fully stop it regardless. It just bodes very ill for whatever the next pandemic will be.
I don’t think this is true, this is the most researched virus in history. I have been told from numerous people in epidemiology & virology that if everyone did what China and NZ did it would be a matter of two or three weeks before this thing was completely eradicated. Since there are animal reservoirs now even though it seems less contagious through those means I’m not sure this is possible anymore. Vax and relax will not work. We have a wealth of research and the knowledge of what we need to do, but the social & political will is not there. That should be the part that gets you feeling because as far as I’m aware the science actually seems very optimistic in a vacuum.
I think it's still possible, since COVID did not come from a bat, and pretty much all wildlife is as unrelated to us as a bat (rodents like squirrels are still slightly close tho)
It brings up a more important question of whether wildlife is being hurt by covid, however