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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

[I originally posted this in chapotraphouse, but it was deleted for being “pro-cop” even though that very much wasn’t the case. (I believe PSL was actually involved in organizing the protest if I’m not mistaken.) The mod that deleted it openly broke the sectarian rule too.]

Been seeing a lot of people hating on what the protest marshals did during the pro-Gaza protests at the DNC and I feel they definitely did the right thing. Instigating stuff like going up against the cops under the guise of “revolutionary” action just gets a lot of people arrested and doesn’t accomplish anything.

EDIT: Users who were present at the protests have said, counter to what is claimed in the screenshot, that the protest marshals did NOT call for the police. Thank you for clearing this up, comrades!

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I don't think that "fighting cops", fun and righteous as it may be, accomplishes anything in and of itself. I wouldn't have picked a fight there; what I would have done is a tactical matter that I'd share only on private channels. But I sure as hell wouldn't have turned on the people I went to a demo with.

I won't try to say that everyone should do as I do; I'm specifically arguing for the opposite of that, to have coordination without subordination. It's not one single party structure pulling it off, and never was.

My position is that if there's a diverse composition at your rally, and there have been stirrings of confrontation for a while, if you see people getting physically combative against the cops or against property and you act to impair them or to facilitate their arrest by police, you are becoming part and parcel of policing.

This is an ethical matter of "do you turn to the ruling authority to resolve division in your movement". For anyone to call themself a genuine leftist, the answer must be an unambiguous "no".

Iff you feel the need to control people using the tide of law enforcement rather than denouncing them or dissociating from them, you show that you're not only unfit for allying with, on top of this you've got more in common with the forces of repression than the forces of liberation.

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