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Since news leaked out 2 days ago that Facebook has approached Mastodon developers and admins - requiring non-disclosure agreements first - the whole microverse (i.e. mastodon / pleroma etc, the micro-blogging part of fedi) has been talking about nothing but that and Facebook's imminent entry into the fediverse with an as yet not clearly defined entity called Barcelona or p92. This woud be very roughly comparable to Reddit saying they are going to federate with lemmy.

Yet here on lemmy I could only find a relatively small discussion.

https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/62958

Did the lemmyverse not know or just not care that much?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" might be difficult to make work with Free Software because it can be forked, but that doesn't categorically exclude it from being a strategy companies can try. It's still relevant to warn the community about.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oh it's past warning at this point, it's irrational paranoia led by people who haven't the slightest idea how any of this works. Users are up in arms because Mastadon admins had a meeting, Lemmy users are demanding their instances sign petitions to defederate Meta instances immediately, all citing an outdated business strategy from the 90s that doesn't even apply to this situation. This isn't just "free software", it's open source, nobody can take this away from you, and I'm pretty sure Meta has other things in mind other than absorbing the existing 1M fediverse users into their 4B userbase.

My point is, everyone needs to calm down, watching and waiting is absolutely the correct move here. There is no operating in the shadows when contributing to open source software, so let them contribute. Honestly they probably just want to hit market faster and it's easier to build on top of open source software than to build it all from scratch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This isn't just "free software", it's open source

I didn't say "free software;" I said Free Software. Quit being a condescending jackass who assumes anybody that disagrees with you must be ignorant, because that isn't true.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry for misunderstanding your use of "free software", but is the direction you're taking in this discussion really just going to be calling me a condensing jackass? Guess we won't be escaping Reddit culture here after all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Sorry for misunderstanding your use of "free software"

Apology accepted, and thank you for tacitly acknowledging that other people might have a better understanding than you initially assumed.

but is the direction you're taking in this discussion really just going to be calling me a condensing jackass? Guess we won't be escaping Reddit culture here after all.

Condescension is no less uncivil than vulgar language. In fact, I'd assert that politely arguing in bad faith (including the tone policing itself, by the way) is much more toxic than impolitely calling it out is. (I would even go so far as to argue that rules enforcing superficial "civility" instead of good faith were one of the largest problems with Reddit).

If you're truly concerned about not perpetuating Reddit culture, examine your own actions first.