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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

How the fuck is it not punishable to write stuff into those contracts that contradict the law (obv. i mean this past a certain company size). Like for real.

Edit: Typo

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't know what the exact agreement here is, but such things are very often not enforceable. You can't have someone sign their rights away. You can have them sign the document, but that document will be worthless in court and will not be respected. Those are more to scare people and discourage them from suing the company.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

not enforceable

I mean sure, but writing agreements that contradict the law, at least in some of the more egregious cases, should really be actively punishable.

Those are more to scare people and discourage them from suing the company.

And this is why.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Yea, i am not so amused by the scaring people part. That is my problem here.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm not exactly sure that it DOES contradict the law, which is the problem.

My hope for this case is that it sets the precident of crushing their bullshit terms of forced arbitration before this happens again and deems terms like these unenforcable. To date, I'm not aware of anyone challenging this in court - meanwhile every company in the country is adding terms like these to their software agreements. So let's throw this shit out for good.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Disney winning sets a precedent that will ultimately lead to vigilante justice by necessity.

If Disney wins, then our “justice” system does not work and cannot be trusted, thus leading people to doing what they need to just to survive when every company starts using that clause to prevent us from holding them responsible for anything at all.

And if that's the case, I guess I need to dig out my mask and cape, and get back to work as a crime fighter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, it certainly has the potential to go sour too. And if they were shopping around for favorable courts, that could be more likely than I would hope. Because to your point, our justice system does not actually work particularly well as it turns out. If the highest court in the land is so corrupt, all these little courts with even less visibility and oversight scare me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I've actually wanted to write a story like this;

Have an ultra-brutal "antihero" character like Punisher, who does extremely violent shit to many "only slightly evil" parties. Each time, as part of their calling card, they leave behind a message to the effect of "We do not have a fair court system, and so I am creating one." Biggest victims include judges, but not many lawyers - and they aim for an end result where large organizations don't try to lobby their way out of problems, but instead argue them on true merits in court.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I was being general, didn't write that i suppose. I am also refereing to companies trying to void warranties for no legal reason etc. There's plenty of contradictory agreements out there.

Edit: Typo