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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Yeah, that's actually the least dumb one after a stable job. Everyone wants money, status and love. Even pride in your nation can be cringe, depending on how justified that pride actually is.

Of course, women are not objects, so I'm unclear how they would pull handing them out off... It's going to be a robot RealDoll thing, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They could probably get girls signing up if they posted ads saying that they're looking for stay at home girlfriends/boipussy for servicemen. Lots of states with no easy way to escape have desperate people unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but you can already dependa without government help. I guess just a sugardaddy-style dating site run by the DoD, then?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yea lul, it would be way easier to just sign up on a gov sponsored app and go than to try and look yourself.

Still a meme anyways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Well let me tell you, the market is already taking care of this need. There is a long established tradition in the US military of partners for our servicepeople being stay at home people. I have witnessed people get divorced from one enlisted person and marry another within a short time span. I'm not assigning moral value to this set of actions, but I think the gf from the state meme kind of already exists, but it's implicit. Making that some form of guarantee would be pretty heinous in my opinion because it would be likely to break the assortative mating that we humans are so fond of (we sort into mating categories for absolutely good reason). The power to date/mate outside of your league is typically reserved for higher-ups in power hierarchies. The tantalizing promise that the underlings in these hierarchies can get that power is one of the main lures ised to get people to support fascism. I think the logic goes: If the boss has all the power in the world and needs me, the common goon, to secure that power, then the boss is likely to toss a few crumbs of power to me. I might be able to date outside of my league, one or two rungs. I can stand the boss breaking the natural order because I'm assuming that I will get to one day be the boss or I will be rewarded by the boss with some power. I went to Dubai and visited the big water park there. The population there is heavily stratified. The couple makeup was almost exclusively what I would describe as fat guys with supermodel wives. It breaks the assortative mating that makes up the natural order. I would suggest to anyone thinking that state-sponsored-girlfriends shoulds like a good idea ask if you yourself would like to date under your league without corersion. If not, then any dating arrangement other than the normal one is immoral. And now for some unsolicited some dating advice: the best way to date out of your league is to move up out of your league by cultivating yourself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Free healthcare and commissary access already causes marriages. A defined length contract wouldn't be the worst thing in human history. But I'm not sure it's up to modern ethical standards.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you can't leave early, yeah it wouldn't be. If you can I don't really see what that adds.

Arguably legal marriages that are hard and expensive to leave are anachronistic themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Oh gosh I wasn't thinking of an enlistment. I was thinking about a normal job contract.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even pride in your nation can be cringe, depending on how justified that pride actually is.

As a German who was raised long after WW2 let me just say that pretty much all pride in your nation is pretty cringe, no matter how justified. The one exception would be maybe if you had a major part in improving your nation personally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hmm. Should I be proud my nation accepts more immigrants than anybody else? If we stopped, I'd stop being proud, so the way I've thought of it that doesn't make me a nationalist. I certainly don't want to be a nationalist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Polish grocery mascot? That's what I get searching that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

More that it is a robot built to assist people

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Roomba in the streets, predator drone in the sheets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Define status. All work has value. A janitor is just as important as a nurse or software developer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't disagree, but hoo boy so do most human beings - especially in the modern West where we have a ghost story called meritocracy. Your example tells me you see it too, so I'll skip the awkward attempt at nailing it down with a definition.

Actually, I do disagree a bit. I wish people took me seriously IRL. I don't need anything more than that though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I disagree.

It doesn't really matter whether you have a Janitor available every day or just one day every week.

But you will really notice if you have a surgeon available every day or just one day of the week.

Please note that I explicitly don't have the opinion that janitors aren't important. If they weren't, they wouldn't exist and noone would pay for them.

But saying that they are just as important as a surgeon just simply isn't true.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But saying that they are just as important as a surgeon just simply isn't true.

Yeah, but I never said that. I said "janitors are just as important as nurses and software engineers" because "all labor has value"

To be clear, I do agree that not all jobs are strictly equal in value. But lets shift our perspective a little: is the life of a CEO worth more than the janitor? I don't think so. And yet the janitor often trades more of his life for far less pay. I think the time the janitor is sacrificing is just as precious to him as the CEO's time is to the CEO.

The main point I would argue is that anyone sacrificing the best hours of the best years of their life deserves a living wage and basic respect / dignity.