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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Hey normalize not posting pictures of people taken in public against their consent at their lowest moments. Like wtf, what if that was you?

It says a lot when your respect and compassion for another person turns off just because they are homeless or poor.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You can take pictures of people in public:

Taking Photos In Public Places Is Not A Crime: Analysis

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. And just because it's technically legal doesn't mean you're not an asshole for doing it.

It called being a decent person.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I didn’t take the picture. And I don’t know if this person wasn’t compensated for this image.

The reason you can post all those images on the internet is almost entirely because of Section 230 of the Communications Act of 1934 or Title V of the Telecommunications Act of 1996. The law essentially provides website providers immunity from third-party content. Generally believed to be the basis for the internet as we know it today, it’s not a given that those protections will remain in place. Giants such as Facebook and Google are under scrutiny from lawmakers for antitrust violations and other misuses of power. No more Section 230, no more upload free-for-all. source

I’m aware of the concerns, but should every meme be copyrighted? Can I not take a photo of my daughter at Disney Land and post it to FaceSpace because unconsenting people are in the background?

Maybe the more pressing issue is to address the house less situation instead of berating people who copy paste images. But, that’s just me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I didn't think you personally took that picture, but your attitude of "it's perfectly legal" is rather off putting. Something being legal doesn't make it ethical.

Also, taking a pic at Disneyland with strangers in the background is different than taking a pic of a specific stranger for the purpose of humiliating them on the internet. You know this, I know this, most people know this. It cruel and wrong. Not that hard to parse out really.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When capitalist alienation got people thinking performativity is direct action. When it’s really just performative activism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I didn't say to make it illegal. I didn't say it was illegal. I said to "normalize" (a social more) not doing so especially when the person has no choice except to live in the public. Especially when they

  1. wouldn't appreciate it being taken or consent to it,
  2. it's not particularly newsworthy,
  3. it's a low moment in their lives, and
  4. it won't benefit them and will benefit the picture taker/poster financially or otherwise

Like we don't make picking your nose in public illegal, there's just a social more that that's gross behavior. That's what I'm asking for - that mistreatment of people be seen as gross.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

Noted.

“If you are interested in helping the homeless and drug addicted, volunteer your time, write a check, lobby the government officials in your community. These people are not on the streets for your amusement. They are real people with real problems not a vehicle for your next social media fix. I truly believe that it’s up to each of us to treat our fellow human beings with dignity and respect. The next time you’re tempted to take that shot of someone passed out on the sidewalk or the young person begging for a meal, think how you would feel if that were you or your family member appearing on someone’s Facebook post.” source

But,

The reason you can post all those images on the internet is almost entirely because of Section 230 of the Communications Act of 1934 or Title V of the Telecommunications Act of 1996. The law essentially provides website providers immunity from third-party content. Generally believed to be the basis for the internet as we know it today, it’s not a given that those protections will remain in place. Giants such as Facebook and Google are under scrutiny from lawmakers for antitrust violations and other misuses of power. No more Section 230, no more upload free-for-all.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There it is, the standard lemmy-tier moral superiority post.

You know nothing about this person or the context of this photo. Someone using their picture as an example of dirty clothes and the look of someone who is homeless isn't going to make their life worse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's sad that asking for better behavior is looked at with derision on your part.

Agree to disagree. I don't really feel like discussing further with you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's fine, your moral superiority has been established. Hope you enjoy the view atop that high horse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Keep punching down ✌️

What we say matters. Even just 1 person on 1 platform.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/13/996570855/disinformation-dozen-test-facebooks-twitters-ability-to-curb-vaccine-hoaxes