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I was just reading this thread... https://sh.itjust.works/post/23476261

...and it got me thinking about something that I've wanted for a long time. Why is it that keyboards have not evolved to have dedicated copy/paste keys left of the main board? I'd love to see an additional column of keys left of Esc->Ctrl configurable as macros at least. I do a lot of copy/paste for work. The current shortcuts arent terrible or anything but they're not exactly comfortable. I'd rather move my whole hand to the left for a macro key than contort to hit the current shortcut.

What do you think?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Most people would use dedicated single copy/paste buttons more than page-up/down or home/end.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I 100% agree with what you are saying. Not to be contrary, but just because it amuses me, I use page up/down and home/end all the time. You're still right.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

No and yes. If the copy and paste buttons would be at the position of page-up/down, I think many people would still use Ctrl+C because it is quickerto reach.

If the keys would be at easily reachable positions, then sure.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Home and End are useful and I can still see a use case for PageUp/PageDown. But I'm pretty sure I've never pressed the Scroll Lock or Pause/Break button even once. I don't think Pause/Break actually does anything anymore and I don't know what scroll lock does but I've never needed it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

It disables scrolling. I'm sure there's a use case but mostly it's annoying. I don't think every program/OS respects it anymore either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Win+Pause/Break opens properties of your PC (on Windows obviously).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Personally I prefer chording with the arrow keys for home/end pageup/down. One of the actually useful things about condensed laptop keyboards with the Fn key. Fn+Arrow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

page-up/down or home/end.

I don't even think about those keys

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

When you want to select a section in a long document or webpage without dragging the mouse and waiting for animations you hold click from where you want the start point to be and page up/down.

When you are trying to select multiple icons from a file browser using your keyboard, shift + arrows gives you item by item, shift + page up/down gives you pages of them.

When you are in a long document or webpage and are trying to scan the text for something and use your mouse to do something on the page, page up/down is often faster than the scroll bar and your mouse if free for pointing and selecting.

Page up/down works as previous/next in many media applications.

When you write text, see that you made a mistake in the middle of the sentence, correct it and then hit home or end to jump to the beginning/end of the sentence in one action.

When you want to select text pressing shift + left/right selects letter by letter, shift + ctrl + left/right selects a word, then shift + home/end selects the line.

In a browser home/end will bring you to the beginning/end of a page. Especially useful for long pages. In a text editor it does the same by adding ctrl to the mix.

Games and specialized software like 3d and cad use these keys all the time for all kinds of functionality.

They may not be the most glamorous keys, but they are very useful in many situations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Well, they don't think about you either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

But... That's on the right side of the keyboard. I guarantee it's faster to press Ctrl-C/V since my left hand is already there than it would be to move it or my mouse hand to Home/End.

But I realize there are left-handed people and other use-cases...