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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There are two factors that can vaguely suggest that that they should have at least expected the sanctions to not topple Russia. If they didn't then they are stupid. China and India.

India would collapse without Russian oil. Ever since the war began India has become a shady middleman that smuggles Russian fuel to Europe to bypass sanctions. Not only this, but it seems like the US is okay with this for some reason. They haven't pressured the BJP regime at all about this.

And with China's and Russia's technological and industrial bases combined there is not much else that is left to be desired. West's innovation since the war began has been just LLMs which they can live without.

There is no reason US should have expected China or India to isolate Russia over this war. That's why I'm a bit confused.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

It seems like they fully expected China and India to fall in line fearing secondary sanctions, and yeah once that didn't happen it was gg well played. Also, completely agree that anybody with a functioning brain could've predicted this outcome.

I suspect that what we're seeing is the effect of creating really good propaganda and echo chambers. The people in charge in the west started drinking their own kool aid at some point.

Incidentally, China's already leading in LLMs :) https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/china-leads-world-adoption-generative-ai-survey-shows-2024-07-09/