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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Of the 3000 cars onboard, 25 are electric and one of those has apparently set light to the whole cargo"

BULLSHIT!

Nobody said so.

But "journalists" nowadays are full of shit and all reporting "currently there's no proof that some electric car started the fire" (always with #electriccars) - what everyone reads as "yeah, sure the electric car was it!"

meanwhile electric cars are actually LESS likely to start a fire and still nobody in the know has actually claimed electric cars had ANYTHING to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The article linked in the post says:

A spokesman for the Coast Guard said earlier today that the fire is believed to have started in one of the electric cars. Later in the evening, the Coast Guard said that nothing is yet known about the cause.

So yeah they aren't sure but it's coming from the coast guard not the journalist.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other people actually reported that coast guard not only responded with "we don't know anything yet", but also with "nobody of us would have told you a cause and we don't know who did"

I've not seen any proof apart from wild speculation by owner/journalists yet.

And yes, the owner too pointed at electric cars - but neither people on board nor anybody near the ship was telling about that. So I'd guess that's just repeating headlines too.

My point was: don't claim "maybe it was electric cars"! because people don't understand "maybe"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

German news said there might have been a Short circuit near those cars, once the Battery catches fire you basically can't put it out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I said there might have been aliens, testing new beam weapons - anything is possible.

we'll never know‽ /s

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, there was no green light visible when the fire broke out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They switched to gamma rays recently.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ah! Those sneaky bastards!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

German news and anti-EV propaganda, name a more iconic duo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What? Thats literally the opposite of anti EV propaganda. And if anything our news push that stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Its easy to put out car fires but when it comes to the batteries EVs have its a different game. Entirely possible it started with one or with something else. But once an EV is on fire and the batteries go, theyll need special equipment and training to put that out. Likely they didnt have those.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

because it's impossible that the other 3000 cars filled with an explosive liquid could have ignited the fire. No, it's definitely impossible, those fuel tanks never leak, and gas vapor never explode

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they don't ship cars with gasoline in em, thats extra weight that doesnt need to be there let alone the fire hazard.

The electric cars on the otherhand most likely have the batteries built into the fucking frame.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbh all cars have at least one battery. Or it might have been some order random accident that has nothing to do with the cargo. I think we need more info on this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While that's true I was more pointing out the falsehood in the other commentor, and while most cars have batteries lets not pretend a batter the size of a cinder block is the same as one the size of a mattress.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

well that and it's different chemistry (lead vs lithium)

…aaaand EVs have those old lead-acid batteries too. (btw: we should finally ditch those for LiFePo or similar)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They dont ship cars with gas in them

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This particular ship does. It's essentially a giant ferry that new cars are driven on to, not loaded.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I mean statistics are clear on that one… :D

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What journalist?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hembrow

If you read the actual article by a journalist they don't say it's a certainty. Maybe the problem is people like you who can't tell a journalist from a random guy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you read the actual article by a journalist they don’t say it’s a certainty. Maybe the problem is people like you who can’t tell a journalist from a random guy.

did you even read what I wrote?

I specifically said that journalists are writing "there's no proof that it wasn't" and that other people are reading "it was" into it.

It's exactly that. People are unable to read/understand.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Your message is that journalists are full of shit, I'm calling you out because you couldn't identify a journalist if they were writing an article in your face.

Stay mad.