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I had a dumb phone until around 2011 and I really miss not staring at my phone all of the time. The only thing that gives me pause is my family sending links via text. I've tried other ways to limit screen time but if it's there I'm gonna use it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No. on both counts.

I actively dislike the trend of returning back to "Dumbphones" because it doesn't actually actively address the issues around Smartphones in general and causes people to be lazy and less aware in general about technology. It is not ideal to be lazy and unaware about technology in this day of age.

These devices may make perfect sense for the aging population who only makes phone calls and sends occasional texts; or for the vulnerable teenager population who absolutely cannot be trusted to self-regulate themselves because that ability is not yet fully developed when using a standard Smartphone; but they do not make sense for your average everyday Adult.

If you have troubles with notifications; I beg and implore you; Learn about how to train your device! Learn which applications are sending notifications, how to block apps that send unimportant notifications, and most importantly how to manually silence your device when you are not in a time or place you are willing to receive notifications and how to un-silence your device so you receive important ones as well!

Modern Smartphones do in fact offer many controls and widgets. Learn how to use them and to customize your phone to offer up only the information you need at a glance; and how to hide information that you don't need.

If this is still a challenge; a modern smartwatch paired with your phone helps a lot to minimize unnecessary information flow while still allowing you to customize and receive critical notification and bits of information.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

i'm really hesitant to put the onus on the user, when these phones and apps have been meticulously designed to keep us engaged 24/7.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

ye I know how to configure my notifs settings. my issue is wanting novel information all the time so I pick up the phone and start scrolling

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you have troubles with notifications; I beg and implore you; Learn about how to train your device! Learn which applications are sending notifications, how to block apps that send unimportant notifications, and most importantly how to manually silence your device when you are not in a time or place you are willing to receive notifications and how to un-silence your device so you receive important ones as well!

This is not anywhere near as simple as you make it out to be. I'm tech-savvy, ensure my phone is configured exactly the way I want it, and do not have any issues with phone addiction. However, I am still constantly annoyed by unwanted notifications. App updates regularly introduce new ways to notify you that can be disabled, but are defaulted to enabled. Also, many (most?) apps do not allow fully granular notification adjustment and just smash most things under "General". I may want GrubHub to ping me when my order's on the way, but I do not want them pushing promotions at me. (Note: I picked GrubHub at random, but my example is actually 100% true. The only way to get away from their promotional notifications is to disable all notifications.) I absolutely understand the desire to just get away from the app world entirely.

My wife has the same phone as I do. She has no issues with using her phone, but I would not describe her as tech savvy and she really doesn't have an interest in learning all the ins and outs of every app. I don't blame her because my own experience proves that you can be a highly advanced user and still experience frustration. But, mostly, I don't think it's something she should have to spend time on. The general population is not going to become an expert on anything and default functionality should be catered to them. Currently, default functionality is driven by ads and engagement rather than usability, and I don't see that changing any time soon.

Choosing a dumbphone is a very valid way to just eliminate that issue entirely. It's not a lazy choice, it's a practical one about how one wants to spend their time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you for this. I would add, given the literal engineering for addiction, for at least some people, "just tune your notifications" is like telling an alcoholic "just don't drink so much."